8 weeks off for school teachers!!
19 July 2015, 05:51 PM
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19 July 2015, 08:40 PM
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Most inside the profession agree too.
Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.
This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?
And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?
Bull****.
Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.
This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?
And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?
Bull****.
20 July 2015, 07:42 AM
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Most inside the profession agree too.
Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.
This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?
And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?
Bull****.
Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.
This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?
And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?
Bull****.
Al, is this definitely true? My younger son just got his results and I thought it was something like 'above or below national expectations', no mention of an average as such. I'll dig out the piece of paper later and confirm.
I don't pay to much attention to SATs but I'd still be interested to know more details if you have them.
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20 July 2015, 07:46 AM
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20 July 2015, 08:56 AM
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John: there is no move to abandon SATS as far as I know. Scotland and Wales have got rid of league tables, and I THINK have got rid of some SATS.
Key Stage 3 went about five to ten years ago, those were the ones at 14. They were meaningless, but Maggie faithfully copied the American system**, and they change school from Junior high to high at 14.
As far as averages are concerned, yes, they are using "national expectations", but what else does it mean
So much so that our year one is actually the second year in school
, the first year having to be called reception.
And why not copy the Americans? Their results were so far ahead of ours, weren't they? Oh, wait.......... when I was at school, a British "A" level in Physics was equivalent to an American degree.
Not any more............
Key Stage 3 went about five to ten years ago, those were the ones at 14. They were meaningless, but Maggie faithfully copied the American system**, and they change school from Junior high to high at 14.
As far as averages are concerned, yes, they are using "national expectations", but what else does it mean
So much so that our year one is actually the second year in school
, the first year having to be called reception.And why not copy the Americans? Their results were so far ahead of ours, weren't they? Oh, wait.......... when I was at school, a British "A" level in Physics was equivalent to an American degree.
Not any more............
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20 July 2015, 03:48 PM
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My youngest is at primary school and they are starting to not 'grade' pupils as such in the end of year reports.
For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"
Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"
Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
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My youngest is at primary school and they are starting to not 'grade' pupils as such in the end of year reports.
For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"
Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"
Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
All because telling little Jimmy he's thick has been deemed to be mean.
20 July 2015, 06:19 PM
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4 will have been almost average
3 slightly below average
2 just under average
1 below average
0 always room for improvement
20 July 2015, 07:00 PM
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Sounds about right, plenty of space to quantify the mediocre but very little for the genuinely good.
20 July 2015, 08:50 PM
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21 July 2015, 10:33 AM
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It was (and still is) a good school but being "double selective" (you need to bright and have parents with a few quid) does warp your sense of normality aged 11.
Are you in Guildford? Most of my relatives still live that way.
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