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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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It may have had something to do with the fact I spent most of my time in the corridors or outside my head of years office waiting to get the cane.


But yeah it was a bit Grange Hill.
I only messed around in French - in the hope I'd get detention with Miss Linguard.....
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Most inside the profession agree too.

Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.

This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?

And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?

Bull****.
Is it true SATS are being abolished ?
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Most inside the profession agree too.

Yet EVERY time the politicos want some change, or something headline grabbing, they don't ask teachers, they ask the media and stupid think-tanks. Worse, they EXCLUDE teachers from the discussions, then, when it all goes wrong, it somehow becomes the school's fault for not implementing it properly.

This latest round of SAT's: what mastermind came up with the idea that 65% of the population should be above average? Do they not understand average?

And what's this crap about "coasting" schools? You get good results and a good OFSTED, you don't improve AGAIN the next year, suddenly you are no good?

Bull****.

Al, is this definitely true? My younger son just got his results and I thought it was something like 'above or below national expectations', no mention of an average as such. I'll dig out the piece of paper later and confirm.

I don't pay to much attention to SATs but I'd still be interested to know more details if you have them.

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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
What are your thoughts about bringing back Grammer Schools?
I went to the selective Royal Grammar School, Guildford and look how I turned out.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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John: there is no move to abandon SATS as far as I know. Scotland and Wales have got rid of league tables, and I THINK have got rid of some SATS.

Key Stage 3 went about five to ten years ago, those were the ones at 14. They were meaningless, but Maggie faithfully copied the American system**, and they change school from Junior high to high at 14.

As far as averages are concerned, yes, they are using "national expectations", but what else does it mean

So much so that our year one is actually the second year in school, the first year having to be called reception.
And why not copy the Americans? Their results were so far ahead of ours, weren't they? Oh, wait.......... when I was at school, a British "A" level in Physics was equivalent to an American degree.

Not any more............

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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 03:48 PM
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My youngest is at primary school and they are starting to not 'grade' pupils as such in the end of year reports.

For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"

Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
My youngest is at primary school and they are starting to not 'grade' pupils as such in the end of year reports.

For example, in previous years, she would get a score from 0-7 with 7 being well above the average, 5 being average and 0 not so good. Now, all the reports are just saying "she is preforming to the national expectation"

Its ruffled a few feathers with the pushy parents who are always expecting their darling child to have all 7's lol
All because telling little Jimmy he's thick has been deemed to be mean.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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Exactly - and we don't want little Johnny thinking he's better than anyone (even though he is)


Now - lets us get out our safety crayon and a circle of paper
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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And let us give everyone a medal for taking part in sports day
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 06:02 PM
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So, on a scale of 0-7, 5 is average? How's that work? Five numbers below, two above?

Sounds like Tory Tosser thinking to me.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
So, on a scale of 0-7, 5 is average? How's that work? Five numbers below, two above?

Sounds like Tory Tosser thinking to me.
It went along the lines that someone who is 'average' looks as though they are getting 5 out of 7 which seems good.

4 will have been almost average
3 slightly below average
2 just under average
1 below average
0 always room for improvement
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
It went along the lines that someone who is 'average' looks as though they are getting 5 out of 7 which seems good.

4 will have been almost average
3 slightly below average
2 just under average
1 below average
0 always room for improvement
Sounds about right, plenty of space to quantify the mediocre but very little for the genuinely good.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnSmith
And let us give everyone a medal for taking part in sports day
Thankfully, my sons school don't seem to partake in that bull$hit.
At sports day today, only the first three over the line got the appropriately coloured stickers.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 03:09 AM
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
I walk past RGS most days, Mattee. It's got a great reputation. Fairly reasonable fees compared to others in the area. As you say, very selective, so there must be plenty of boys wanting to enrol each year. You from Guildford?
Nearby; New Haw (until 3) Cobham until 6, West Horseley until 14 then moved down here. I used to get the train to school. At the time the local comp was dire so failing the entrance exam simply wasn't an option. A lot of pressure aged 10! No tuition though; just took it. Some parents spent a fortune on extra tuition.

It was (and still is) a good school but being "double selective" (you need to bright and have parents with a few quid) does warp your sense of normality aged 11.

Are you in Guildford? Most of my relatives still live that way.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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