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Old 28 April 2015, 06:21 PM
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Not entirely sure which is the worse type of ex girlfriend, the one which is evil to her bones and will go to extraordinary lengths to see you suffer, or the one who just will not accept things are over and would chase you from one end of the world to the other, hanging onto the faintest of hopes that you might get back together with her.

Had both of those, each situation was as bad as the other, just in different ways. Both have missed out on a lot of happiness in life through their own making.

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Old 28 April 2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Two men on this thread claiming to be laid back still remains anecdotal. It can't be said about most men tbh. That's because it isn't true.

Anyway, you say that your 'so laid back nature' p1sses her off? Why p!ss her off on ongoing basis with your amazing laid back nature?? Are you a wind up to her or what?? Then why should you wonder if she reaches the end of her tether one day, and wants a divorce from you, eh?

I think some men hit the comfort couch in long term relationships, and then begins the boredom and lack of excitement for the other half. If comfort couch hitting and going passive after forming a stable relationship mean being laid back , then unfortunately the great God is your DJ for the rest of your life.
Hahahaha she ain't bored believe me,we do things.Snowboarding in the mountains for a week valentines in Czech near the German border,out every night for a week couple weeks back in town,bar's,casino,cinema,shops.
I just don't rush to do anything,it gets done but in my time,what don't get done today gets done the next day,chill out relax.yea I am a bit of a wind up,but its also funny we wind each other up at times.
Old 29 April 2015, 09:28 AM
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everyone's got an awkward ex - some are just more awkward than others. The difficulties come when you can't quite get a clean break, and when the children's interests are not absolutely paramount.
Old 29 April 2015, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
All/most women are psychos and all/most men are just so laid back and fantastic is a myth. In line with the OP's anguish, a woman with kids' custody is supported by law to be paid off or keep getting paid by the estranged husband/ kids' father, if that's what she wants. I think all victimised husbands should write to the law making body against such exploitation, and try to cut the cr@p.

About OP, stop acting like a door mat and use your human right to be entitled to what you deserve. Do what the law says, nothing more and nothing less.

I wish you two sorted everything emicably, at least for the children's sake, but as that doesn't seem to be the case, I hope you have a good lawyer. Other than that, look after yourself, don't get too stressed, and it will all settle soon.

Good luck.
Exactly this.

Unless your children are still infants, then why is your ex wife not working to help pay for things?
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Originally Posted by weapon69
Exactly this.

Unless your children are still infants, then why is your ex wife not working to help pay for things?

Ahh, but the ladys that lunch need to maintain their lifestyle. Proper work wouldn't fit into their busy schedule.
Old 29 April 2015, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Being laid back, is somtimes the only option. In the face of quite an ugly sitaution where she is wanting you to react to her verbal abuse, not reacting is the best course of action.
Classic 'door mat' behaviour. Why have such ugly situations, and put up with abusive partners? Surely you can't be that ugly to put up with sh7t like that???!!!

Many, many reasons to act submissive and have low self-esteem, not just someone's fugliness, I know. However, I suggest one gets some help, get rid of such Stockholm Syndrome, and move on; even if that move is to a lonely flat.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Classic 'door mat' behaviour. Why have such ugly situations, and put up with abusive partners? Surely you can't be that ugly to put up with sh7t like that???!!!

Many, many reasons to act submissive and have low self-esteem, not just someone's fugliness, I know. However, I suggest one gets some help, get rid of such Stockholm Syndrome, and move on; even if that move is to a lonely flat.
When the abusive one is goading for a reaction. Not reacting is the best option. Its not door mat behaviour, its avoiding the trap where once the "door mat" does react emotionally the situation escalates very quickly and negatively.

Just nodding and saying with zero emotion "Ok sure, thats your opinion, you are entitled to it". And adding nothing further, works like a charm.

Inccidentally its quite similar to dealing with Police interrogation...where the accusing officer is trying to provoke you into a emotional response of which will be used as eveidence against the accused.
Old 29 April 2015, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
When the abusive one is goading for a reaction. Not reacting is the best option. Its not door mat behaviour, its avoiding the trap where once the "door mat" does react emotionally the situation escalates very quickly and negatively.

Just nodding and saying with zero emotion "Ok sure, thats your opinion, you are entitled to it". And adding nothing further, works like a charm.

Inccidentally its quite similar to dealing with Police interrogation...where the accusing officer is trying to provoke you into a emotional response of which will be used as eveidence against the accused.
Yes, it is a 'door mat' behaviour.

Personal relationships can't be compared to the official police interrogation. Former can be far worse, and repeated submission is only done if fvvking desperate!

What charm?? You want to charm your abuser? Why? Can't you find someone who can respect you and love you without you having to play this 'submission' game with them??

Introspect, rather than playing silly games.

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Old 29 April 2015, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Ahh, but the ladys that lunch need to maintain their lifestyle. Proper work wouldn't fit into their busy schedule.
That's another bullsh7t that the husbands generally provide for the lifestyle of their wives; cohabiting or estranged. Some earning men with working wives who think that they have a footballers wife each are fantasists.

There are plenty of women out there with much better paid job than their husbands, and are the major providers in the household. In divorce situation, the law is said to be in favour of women with kids, because kids' needs are to be shared by both parents. If the kids' custody is with the man, then the higher earner woman is supposed to pay the maintenance to the man. If not, he still needs to stick some money into her bank account, no matter how little. That's the law, and if men don't like it, they need get together and bring the law down.
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Ok sure, you're entitled to your opinion.












Old 29 April 2015, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
Hahahaha she ain't bored believe me,we do things.Snowboarding in the mountains for a week valentines in Czech near the German border,out every night for a week couple weeks back in town,bar's,casino,cinema,shops.
I just don't rush to do anything,it gets done but in my time,what don't get done today gets done the next day,chill out relax.yea I am a bit of a wind up,but its also funny we wind each other up at times.
Ok, as long as you don't promise things to do by certain time, and then take your own time, because you're soooooo very laid back! Or, when you know that things need doing and you just leave them for days and months on end, that's taking the p7ss, and not good in a long run. People should be a man of their words, or they shouldn't utter those words, end of.

I knew a couple whose husband took like, 3 years to fix their stuck front door lock, and everyone including his 5 children had to enter their house via back door, for all those 3 years. He's a lucky guy that his wife is still with him. She wears the trousers, always earned more than him, and gets much bigger pension than his, now. He's an ex-army, just potters about, chatting sh7t with with everyone. Typical couch potato behaviour.

My joiner is also similar. He does top job for others and gets paid, but when it comes to his own house, he leaves it like a ramshackle, and winds his missus up. Luckily, they're also still together. Not typically a couch potato, mind. He must get fed up of doing same sh7t different day, so he perhaps can't be bothered doing joinery in his own house.

Now both men put up with their wives shouting at them like hell, because they know their fault regardless.

However, if you don't promise to do anything by certain time, and do not deliberately delay things because you're not a comfort couch hitting sort of 'laid back' potato, then I really don't know what your lady's problem is. She shouldn't get p7ssed off with you, should she? May be she needs a different hobby; other than getting p7ssed off with you for sod all.

LOL glad to know you two have fun times, DYK.
Old 30 April 2015, 07:51 AM
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I've usually got out of relationships when I've seen warning signs. Looking back on every relationship I've had before I married my missus, those signs were there from early on. Prevention is key!

I was with one lass for nearly two years before I actually saw her for what she was, but for some reason thought it was worth staying in the relationship for another year before having a lucky escape! I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if we'd got married... fooooooookin hell I'd have been rinsed.

I've seen friends and family go through bitter break ups and divorces, and the signs were also there from very early on in the relationship.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yes, it is a 'door mat' behaviour.

Personal relationships can't be compared to the official police interrogation. Former can be far worse, and repeated submission is only done if fvvking desperate!

What charm?? You want to charm your abuser? Why? Can't you find someone who can respect you and love you without you having to play this 'submission' game with them??

Introspect, rather than playing silly games.


Yes dear
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Ok, as long as you don't promise things to do by certain time, and then take your own time, because you're soooooo very laid back! Or, when you know that things need doing and you just leave them for days and months on end, that's taking the p7ss, and not good in a long run. People should be a man of their words, or they shouldn't utter those words, end of.

I knew a couple whose husband took like, 3 years to fix their stuck front door lock, and everyone including his 5 children had to enter their house via back door, for all those 3 years. He's a lucky guy that his wife is still with him. She wears the trousers, always earned more than him, and gets much bigger pension than his, now. He's an ex-army, just potters about, chatting sh7t with with everyone. Typical couch potato behaviour.

My joiner is also similar. He does top job for others and gets paid, but when it comes to his own house, he leaves it like a ramshackle, and winds his missus up. Luckily, they're also still together. Not typically a couch potato, mind. He must get fed up of doing same sh7t different day, so he perhaps can't be bothered doing joinery in his own house.

Now both men put up with their wives shouting at them like hell, because they know their fault regardless.

However, if you don't promise to do anything by certain time, and do not deliberately delay things because you're not a comfort couch hitting sort of 'laid back' potato, then I really don't know what your lady's problem is. She shouldn't get p7ssed off with you, should she? May be she needs a different hobby; other than getting p7ssed off with you for sod all.

LOL glad to know you two have fun times, DYK.

STILL on about that front door....!!!!



I've fixed mine now, turns out hadn't put key in far enough
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
Face like a bucket of smashed crabs now...........not nice
Is that what happens when a woman becomes a lesbian?

My allusions are now shattered
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Originally Posted by dpb
STILL on about that front door....!!!!



I've fixed mine now, turns out hadn't put key in far enough
Ha I still have to fit a door security chain from three months ago because she's paranoid thinking someone tried to get into the apartment.Need to have a card key to enter the building and two security key locks on the door,one you need a card for to get a replica key.moving in four months anyway so it won't be a job worth doing...
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Ok sure, you're entitled to your opinion.

Originally Posted by dpb
Yes dear
Some submissions sound so dumb that they hardly work like a charm. Instead they're sheer annoyance.

You want to charm your lady, be a man of your words. Get off your backside and do the effing job. End of.

No wonder they get p7ssed off with the likes of you.

Imagine a man who can't cook, because he won't cook. Now, if his home chef missus becomes soooooo very laid back that she stops cooking in time, and if his food is either missing or delayed for days on end, I'm sure he'd get p7ssed off, and do one to the chippy. Not only he may just buy the chips there, but also get involved in flirting with the greasy chip shop woman, and then try finding her on Plenty of Fish on line. Think about it.

Basically, one needs to do some self corrections, if one doesn't want nagging for being so fvvking laid back! Depends what you mean by 'laid back'. Delaying jobs around the house and having a 'no-go' passivity is not being 'laid back', it's plain and simple lazy and boring. Then you complain why your wives get p7ssed off with you? HA!

Originally Posted by dpb
STILL on about that front door....!!!!
I've fixed mine now, turns out hadn't put key in far enough
Congratulations, you Einstein! You did it all for yourself, and for no one else. You must be so proud of yourself!
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I have never had problems getting women, it's always the getting rid of them that's the difficult bit. I also once left the country to shake a woman, some people are completely mental and it can sometimes take a little while to figure it out.

That said this particular one I actually didn't want anything to do with her in the beginning, there was just something about her that I couldn't fathom and boy oh boy should I have listened to my instincts

Instead I let mutual friends push me into a relationship with her because she was smoking hot, they all thought I was crazy not being interested in this stunner with a good background and career (posh bird) so I went out with her and as it does after a few drinks one thing led to another, in my defence she had one hell of a body and was throwing it at me, I was like a lamb to the slaughter, never stood a chance

Now that I think about it, that's why she had a bottle of wine with her in the car.

Then I found out what it was about her, she had a split personality and was ******* mental and totally calculating, always nice in front of people then a total b1tch when no one was around and would switch back and forth in an instant.

I won't go into details but suffice to say it took me 4yrs to get her out of my life and thank god, and the poor ****** she tried to make me jealous with who for his sins looked a bit like me I have never seen her again and don't ever want to.
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Originally Posted by MaxA
everyone's got an awkward ex - some are just more awkward than others. The difficulties come when you can't quite get a clean break, and when the children's interests are not absolutely paramount.
Good post, and so true.

All exes, males or females, become psychos to the other ex, to some or greater extent. Our perspective about our amazing partners changes after our split with them. We slag them off and they slag us off to people. All this "The barstward always sh@t on me!" or "The b7tch was always an ad hoc crazy, and I had to put up with her insanity all that time" starts off as a public show. |I can see the benefit, as slagging our exes off it makes us feel better and heals our bitter wounds. Basically people see their backside big style when break ups take place. Best idea is to learn something from every failed relationship, and not make same mistakes again.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I have never had problems getting women, it's always the getting rid of them that's the difficult bit. I also once left the country to shake a woman, some people are completely mental and it can sometimes take a little while to figure it out.

That said this particular one I actually didn't want anything to do with her in the beginning, there was just something about her that I couldn't fathom and boy oh boy should I have listened to my instincts

Instead I let mutual friends push me into a relationship with her because she was smoking hot, they all thought I was crazy not being interested in this stunner with a good background and career (posh bird) so I went out with her and as it does after a few drinks one thing led to another, in my defence she had one hell of a body and was throwing it at me, I was like a lamb to the slaughter, never stood a chance

Now that I think about it, that's why she had a bottle of wine with her in the car.

Then I found out what it was about her, she had a split personality and was ******* mental and totally calculating, always nice in front of people then a total b1tch when no one was around and would switch back and forth in an instant.

I won't go into details but suffice to say it took me 4yrs to get her out of my life and thank god, and the poor ****** she tried to make me jealous with who for his sins looked a bit like me I have never seen her again and don't ever want to.
Bloody hell! What a story! You must be very attractive to be obsessed with, and she must have been a psycho to leach on to you like that.

You get men like that, too. I'm not some beauty queen at all, but I've come across obsessive men in my life. I have to say that I'm ruthless, and take no nonsense. No one like that obsessed woman of yours can torment me for four years and push me out of my comfort zone. I always nipped things like that in the bud. If they did, then obviously, I also had a weakness for them.
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So true, I learned a few things.

Listen to your instincts.

Never under estimate the lengths some people will go to to get back at you.

If you smell a rat, walk away sooner rather than later.

If she's hot and single, she's probably crazy.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
So true, I learned a few things.

Listen to your instincts.

Never under estimate the lengths some people will go to to get back at you.

If you smell a rat, walk away sooner rather than later.

If she's hot and single, she's probably crazy.

Yes.

And if he's hot and single, he's probably a serial sh@gger self-obsessed weirdo with some sexually transmitted diseases to pass to you, and he must have many unfathered kids scattered around all over the world. Village bike, basically.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Bloody hell! What a story! You must be very attractive to be obsessed with, and she must have been a psycho to leach on to you like that.

You get men like that, too. I'm not some beauty queen at all, but I've come across obsessive men in my life. I have to say that I'm ruthless, and take no nonsense. No one like that obsessed woman of yours can torment me for four years and push me out of my comfort zone. I always nipped things like that in the bud. If they did, then obviously, I also had a weakness for them.
I'm gorgeous, very charming and great in the sack.

TBH I think what really set her off was that I wasn't interested in her and she was use to guys falling over themselves to get close to her. (tip for you single guys) Then she just had to have me.

That's also what made her stick to me like glue, as above I was never really that bothered and I'm quite a relaxed person about most things and just let things amble along for a while, after all said and done we men are simple creatures and if our basic needs are taken care of we tend not to look for a better option ( unlike cats) until the much fabled straw that breaks the camels back.

With her I just got to a point where I knew I didn't have honourable intentions and it was time I stopped wasting both our lives, then it began gently at first until all hell broke lose.

That was quite a few years ago now and I have long since moved on, which is something I have always been good at, for me when it's over I tend to look to the future not back, as depending on your state of mind I always find a break up an exciting time looking forwards to the next honey or even honeys I'll be getting my grubby mitts on.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yes.

And if he's hot and single, he's probably a serial sh@gger self-obsessed weirdo with some sexually transmitted diseases to pass to you, and he must have many unfathered kids scattered around all over the world. Village bike, basically.
Sounds suspiciously like the voice of experience.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Sounds suspiciously like the voice of experience.
No, I steer well clear from self-adoring narcissists, Ditch. They just love themselves, man! If anything, I've taken them round the block and dropped them where they belonged!

When I was a university student at my under 20 age, I had this stunning professor friend who thought all women just loved him for his intellectual bullsh7t, film star looks and his status. He was about 6-7 years older than me. He once said to me that if I wasn't going out with that sportsman (my boyfriend of that time), there's no way I could have resisted him. I told him to do one on his scooter and told him that I wasn't into slimy serial sha@ggers like him. His ego was badly bruised, so he trapped my older sister instead when I was away in my uni. She's a bit dumb, so she thought sun shone through his @rse. I was very pleased the day she dumped him as well.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
No, I steer well clear from self-adoring narcissists, Ditch. They just love themselves, man! If anything, I've taken them round the block and dropped them where they belonged!

When I was a university student at my under 20 age, I had this stunning professor friend who thought all women just loved him for his intellectual bullsh7t, film star looks and his status. He was about 6-7 years older than me. He once said to me that if I wasn't going out with that sportsman (my boyfriend of that time), there's no way I could have resisted him. I told him to do one on his scooter and told him that I wasn't into slimy serial sha@ggers like him. His ego was badly bruised, so he trapped my older sister instead when I was away in my uni. She's a bit dumb, so she thought sun shone through his @rse. I was very pleased the day she dumped him as well.
Sounds just like my best mate

He used to look like Antonio Bandaras, complete with pony tail, these days he looks like George Clooney with a voice like Prince Charles I **** you not when I say women fall at his feet, quite entertaining to watch him reel them in.

Thing is though they never have any meaning full relationships, I have another friend out here who is a bit of a local celebrity and women also fall at his feet, he however is slightly different in that he said to me he would trade them all for one good one, which is really very sad.

Always remember when dealing with such people, the loudest best looking seemingly confident person in the room is probably the most insecure little puppy just looking for love.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
.........complete with pony tail...
....these days he looks like George Clooney with a voice like Prince Charles I **** you not.....

That's hilarious!
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I wonder if the bird from my chippy is on POF
Will check later

Turbohot.....what name are you on POF
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Originally Posted by donny andi
I wonder if the bird from my chippy is on POF
Will check later

Turbohot.....what name are you on POF
Oh, shut up, Donny!

I don't do POF and sh7t like that. Fvvking hell, man! Who do you think I am???

How's your Bengal Squirel, anyway? Say my hello to it.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Oh, shut up, Donny!

I don't do POF and sh7t like that. Fvvking hell, man! Who do you think I am???

How's your Bengal Squirel, anyway? Say my hello to it.
She's getting there thank you



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