Turbohot

Awwwww! Dead cute, man! Stunning looking kitty.

donny andi

iTrader: (3)

It's my Rottweiler dressed as a cat

hodgy0_2

not quite true - I.e everyone

I met my wife in 1982 - she was 16 and I was 17, we have 5 amazing children and she still not only looks fantastic but also IS fantastic in every conceivable way - I fancy her more than ever!!!

**** doesn't always happen

dpb

You're one in several million, at a guess

Turbohot

Where exactly did I say 'everyone' and that 'sh7t always happens'???

You’ve taken my comment out of the original context. The original context was the perception and the experiences of the exes, NOT the perception and the experiences of the people in a long term loving relationship with mutual respect for each other.

MaxA says in his #33:

He’s talking about the ones with the exes, not about the ones with loving other halves.

I quote him and comment in my # 49; the extract of which you quote:

I know quite a few people in long term loving relationships, and I never said that all relationships end up in a disaster.

Turbohot

Nice!

hodgy0_2

apologies if I did - my comment was against the perception that "everyone has an awkward ex"

I can see that this may have been in the context of everyone that has an Ex, has an awkward one

but still my point stands - not everyone in the world has litany of disastrous relationships

and yes - I am perfect (and so is my wife!!)

Turbohot

No worries, and it wasn't a case of 'may have been', in all certainty the 'exes' was the context of my post, as I explained in my previous post.

I do see some exaggerated generalisation in MaxA's post, as not 'everyone' with an ex has an 'awkward' ex either. But when you look at the overall context of the thread, starting with the thread title and the opening post, what MaxA says is that everyone who thinks that he/she has an awkward ex certainly has an awkward ex. I totally agree with that. It simply cannot be denied.

To be honest with you, no one said here on this thread that 'everyone in the world has a litany of disastrous relationships'. So the point you assert on this thread i.e. 'not everyone in the world has litany of disastrous relationships' seems totally unnecessary on the thread, although surely a very admirable one; as a stand alone, random point.

lozgti1

Right,most serious post I have ever made on a thread and for all the world to see...

My ex detests me having any friends who are girls whatsoever.She saw I had noted on my calender (yes,she was round my house getting cooked for and the kids cooked for,I know,weird) that my friend was running the London Marathon

Immediately blocked my calls,would not let me speak to the children

Me? As could not get through on telephone sent her umpteen emails saying she was the lowest of the low,utter scum (because she sent her sister round to my friends place of work to say she would smash her face in and hope she got cancer,remember been apart 8 months)

Result ? I was arrested yesterday on 'non'violent harrassment,spent 19 hours in a police cell and had to appear before a court this morning in handcuffs

I am a lawyer and every single person,my lawyer as well as the security staff said it was appalling what had happened.They were all lovely

NO threats( I would not hurt a fly ) and have just been through the worst 24 hours of my life due actually to her anger

I am still in recovery.Even the drug dealer I had to share a cell with was lovely and said cannot believe someone like you is here

Fathers for Justice,I applaud you.Never felt so utterly **** in my whole life :-(

I cannot believe what has just happened to me.Not even got a parking ticket :-(

lozgti1

Feel like I have been in a different universe

dpb

What was the non violent Harassment

lozgti1

Yep

Non violent as per the summons

At all

Feel sick

dpb

For a few emails !?

donny andi

iTrader: (3)

You never answered to whether she has fit mates or fit sister

On a serious note ,
Stop all contact as she will keep ringing the old Bill over anything and everything even false claims.
Man up and tell her to do one and get the ball rolling for access to the kids.
Sorry to be blunt but only look out for the kids

lozgti1

Sorry dbp,din't read it correctly

Numerous emails from me me ove a one week period when she wouldnt let the children ring etc etc

Me saying in the emails she was beyond appalling doing this to me

Kids adore me,she hates me and I confess I said she was the lowest of the low

lozgti1

After the nonsense I have been through,I will!! Keeps telling me she loves me then I get arrested!!! For sod all!!!

lozgti1

Yep,problem was I kept constantly emailing saying tell the kids to ring me and telling her she was vile.That was enough to spend a night in a cell so it seems!!

lozgti1

Never threatened to hit her,touch her or anything,just kept saying how vile she was.Good enough for the police and their targets :-(

donny andi

iTrader: (3)

Mind games pal, they either love you or hate you.

Kids and only kids pal...go through the right way , contact centre of whatever so there is no contact with the ex , cut the apron strings

lozgti1

Sister fit but cause of most of the problems....she is all yours

lozgti1

Some v good points.Cheers

donny andi

iTrader: (3)

Pic and phone number of said sister required via pm
I'm like thrush......I can irritate any ****

weapon69

Maybe you'll think twice before you send 'umpteen emails' calling her all sorts. What did you anticipate would happen?

Turbohot

Bleddy hell, Loz! Very controlling lady you have there, but it seems all very mixed up, mate.

If you've had a divorce, then why have your ex-wife around to cook etc.?? How would you react if you were cooking for her and for your kids in her (previously yours as well) house, and find that she had a male marathon runner for a mate, which you didn't know was calendar entry worthy? Sorry, you may not be a jealous and controlling sort, but there are plenty of men there that would kick fuss, and do what your wife did to you.

Leaving this gender comparison aside, I find your wife's actions totally irrational.

TBH, both acts are irrational i.e. you getting your ex-missus over to cook for you and your part-timing kids, as well as she going off her trolley at your calendar, and then getting you arrested.

See, that's what I mean. You both seem to be quite mixed up, and still embroiled with your love-hate relationship for each other. It happens sometimes, not totally unusual. It clearly isn't a clean break situation, and you need a cooling off period before you can pleasantly date someone else. Even your marathon runner friend got troubled and abused for fvvk all, so what chance has someone from POF got?? Think about it.

Reconcile if there's more love than hate, or call it a bluff, I say.

I'm so sorry to learn what you've been through. Take it easy.

Turbohot

Yes, I have to agree. No matter what, I never thought Loz could call such words to anyone i.e. utter scum and things like that.

This sort of wordings are used in the crime of passion. I think they both love each other, they crave for each other's attention, and therefore, out to get at each other. After 8 months of separation and divorce he lets her do house jobs in his flat--->she kicks off seeing the other girl's name on his calendar,----->she sends her sister to smash that girl's face,-------> he sends her abusive emails, and then BANG! --------> He gets arrested. Nice! Not.

I sense love between the two; a mixed up one. Bang their heads together and cut the cr@p.

Sorry, Loz. Sort it out, man. Good luck.

donny andi

iTrader: (3)

And get the ******* pictures of the sister up

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

See TH, this is kind of what I was getting at: Reacting gives them amunition to use against you.

Although part of me wants your friend to inform the police of her sisters threatening behaviour (do they have CCTV at her worklplace that caught this? ). This could worsen the situation further though.

weapon69

I agree totally. I will never understand affairs of the heart (including my own). The best thing is absolutely zero contact with the ex if there's all that cr@p going on. In time, it should settle.

Turbohot

And, if the contact is prolonged in such situation, then there's the ambiguous attachment we're talking. In that case, the OP cannot class himself genuinely single/divorced. He's legally divorced, but not emotionally. Kids can't be made excuse for the prolonged contact with the ex-spouse. It's not the ambiguity but the clarity that is better for the kids, and therefore, these two need to reconcile rather than winding each other up. It's obvious that they can't let go of each other.

Affairs of the heart are complex. Very complex. I agree.

Turbohot

Ali, I don't know if you can see that in the OP's latest bust up with his ex-wifey, there's an action from the OP to invite a reaction from her. If he has gone so 'single' over 8 months, then he didn't have to have his ex-missus to cook and clean for him, did he? If he has this close and ambiguous contact still continued with his missus, then what right did he have to mess with that female marathon runner friend's integrity and compromise her sanity, who got victimised by his missus's sister for, probably, fvvk all?? He has to take indirect responsibility for it. Then he acts again by spamming the reactionary body with his abusive emails; in order to get more reaction out of her.

In summary, it's all attention demanding games, and people play them in the main game called 'love' or 'attraction'.