Saudi blogger receives first 50 lashes of sentence for 'insulting Islam'.
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Anjem Choudry is spouting his usual nonsense already:
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Mr Choudary, a lecturer in Shariah law, who was arrested in the UK last September as part of an investigation into Islamist terrorism, described it as "blatant provocation" adding that if the "act of war" was to be tried in a Shariah Court it would carry capital punishment.
He added: "There will be repercussions. I think there will be someone somewhere who will retaliate."
He added: "There will be repercussions. I think there will be someone somewhere who will retaliate."
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Sughra Ahmed, president of the Islamic Society of Britain, said freedom needs to be defended "at all costs".
"We need to de-escalate the tension around all this. Those Muslims who feel offended may have a right, but in the scheme of things we should be far more offended by injustice, economic exploitation, anti-Semitism, homophobia, murder, etc," she said.
"We are not defending the new cartoon per se, but the 'all is forgiven' sentiment is important and gracious and if many of my work colleagues were shot dead, I would feel defiant and want to fight back, so I understand where this is coming from.
"The people that committed the murders in the name of Mohammed did anything but help his teachings and his cause."
"We need to de-escalate the tension around all this. Those Muslims who feel offended may have a right, but in the scheme of things we should be far more offended by injustice, economic exploitation, anti-Semitism, homophobia, murder, etc," she said.
"We are not defending the new cartoon per se, but the 'all is forgiven' sentiment is important and gracious and if many of my work colleagues were shot dead, I would feel defiant and want to fight back, so I understand where this is coming from.
"The people that committed the murders in the name of Mohammed did anything but help his teachings and his cause."
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30794829
I was going to post about this, but felt the dust needed to settle. The Beeb offer some insight as to why this has received so little coverage:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30794829
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30794829
I'd really love to know who decided who the West were and how they came to use that stupid label.........not to mention the Middle East. It's not like the Earth is fixed.....it rotates.
Sorry folks. Trivial side show I know but we all use/hear these phrases every day and I'm picking holes in them for the sake of it. If you are on the exact opposite side of the world to the "Middle East" you are also technically in the "Middle East" albeit in the South Pacificas best as I can make out. Where is the Middle West for example?
I'll leave that one for anyone to have a conflab about if they can be arsed.
Sorry folks. Trivial side show I know but we all use/hear these phrases every day and I'm picking holes in them for the sake of it. If you are on the exact opposite side of the world to the "Middle East" you are also technically in the "Middle East" albeit in the South Pacificas best as I can make out. Where is the Middle West for example?
I'll leave that one for anyone to have a conflab about if they can be arsed.
The later historians who went on to define these areas in more granular terms were Western European, and so 'the East' meant east of them.
So you have the Near East (Turkey etc), the Middle East (Iraq, Iran etc.) and the Far East (China, Japan etc.) all defined by how far east from Western European historians they were.
Latterly Western civilisation has come to mean those nations following a capitalist path and social structure based on that of Western Europe which is why Australia and New Zealand are part of 'the West' in cultural terms.
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Historians.........'Nuff said Chief.
Thanks for the enlightenment Although I would love to have met one to find out where the starting point was to determine East from West 
Thanks for the enlightenment
Although I would love to have met one to find out where the starting point was to determine East from West
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The Prime Meridian runs through Greenwich, in part this is because it puts the 180 deg mark just to the east of New Zealand meaning there aren't a whole load of countries running on different days, but also because Britain were top boys when the thing was arbitrarily decided so we got to stick the pin in the map. I think.
The Prime Meridian runs through Greenwich, in part this is because it puts the 180 deg mark just to the east of New Zealand meaning there aren't a whole load of countries running on different days, but also because Britain were top boys when the thing was arbitrarily decided so we got to stick the pin in the map. I think.
The Prime Meridian runs through Greenwich, in part this is because it puts the 180 deg mark just to the east of New Zealand meaning there aren't a whole load of countries running on different days, but also because Britain were top boys when the thing was arbitrarily decided so we got to stick the pin in the map. I think.
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As Hodgy alludes to, the notion of the 'west' stretches back to the Greco-Roman era, but popular use of terms like 'the middle east' and 'the far east' don't date back much further than the turn of the last century. The history of it is fairly broad to be fair, but I think we can all agree that the demarcation is Eurocentric.
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