Is 60 miles around town good for £20 worth of v power
06 December 2014, 11:14 PM
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mpg wise the diesels are far cheaper to run as we all know 30 mpg is around average for a wrx and a bit lower for an sti.
diesels run around mid 40s to 50s on everyday driving and the cost per gallon is the same.
maintenace is hardly cheap on an impreza and they do require repairs as much as the next car.
06 December 2014, 11:35 PM
#32
on buying a new car yes,second hand no.
mpg wise the diesels are far cheaper to run as we all know 30 mpg is around average for a wrx and a bit lower for an sti.
diesels run around mid 40s to 50s on everyday driving and the cost per gallon is the same.
maintenace is hardly cheap on an impreza and they do require repairs as much as the next car.
mpg wise the diesels are far cheaper to run as we all know 30 mpg is around average for a wrx and a bit lower for an sti.
diesels run around mid 40s to 50s on everyday driving and the cost per gallon is the same.
maintenace is hardly cheap on an impreza and they do require repairs as much as the next car.
06 December 2014, 11:55 PM
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I beg to differ. We have had our car for seven years, touch wood the only thing that has gone wrong mechanically is a tiny hole in the top rad hose, and then a hairline fracture in the top of the rad itself.
Can you honestly tell me a golf the same age (and I have had three) would be as reliable and not cost a fortune in repair bills. You can't just plug a fault code reader in a vag car, has to go somewhere that has vag com diagnostics to deal with that. Mate of mine has got a 1.9 Passat, it is newer than our scoob, and the dashboard is lit up like a Christmas tree. He changed the abs unit, but can't even bleed the brakes without getting it connected to vag com and have that tell the Ecu the unit has been changed, and to turn the fault light off.
Can you honestly tell me a golf the same age (and I have had three) would be as reliable and not cost a fortune in repair bills. You can't just plug a fault code reader in a vag car, has to go somewhere that has vag com diagnostics to deal with that. Mate of mine has got a 1.9 Passat, it is newer than our scoob, and the dashboard is lit up like a Christmas tree. He changed the abs unit, but can't even bleed the brakes without getting it connected to vag com and have that tell the Ecu the unit has been changed, and to turn the fault light off.
Well I like to drive and have fun in my car when it's appropriate, I don't generally tear **** about the place during day to day driving, I tend to stick pretty close to the speed limit and don't see the point in spunking fuel if I'm only going to the shops, I save it for those times when I'm in the mood for a blast and go do the coast road or some other back roads where there's not many cars about or people trying to cross the road doing their shopping.
I wouldn't have a modern diesel as they are crap and end up costing more in repairs than you save on fuel as well as the fact that diesel is more expensive as are the cars, false economy unless your going to do more than 100k in 3yrs and my days of doing that sort of milage are long gone thankfully.
I wouldn't have a modern diesel as they are crap and end up costing more in repairs than you save on fuel as well as the fact that diesel is more expensive as are the cars, false economy unless your going to do more than 100k in 3yrs and my days of doing that sort of milage are long gone thankfully.
The WRX is poor on fuel, attracts high maintenance costs and is not particularly insurance friendly. Most owners who run these cars will see mid-20s for fuel consumption at the very best.
If you don't like your diesels - I do - then go for one of the multitude of other cars available out there, maybe something like a 1.6 Focus. It'll still be vastly more economical and a generally better place to be when making your way from A to B than driving an Impreza turbo with a glass of water balanced on your head to achieve your 36mpg.
If you're buying a car that's designed to be driven quickly I think it's wrong to worry about the amount of fuel it uses. If you're worried about that, buy something more economical, whatever it may be.
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07 December 2014, 12:35 AM
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Why is it that if some gets a service from RCM everyone goes crazy and talks about how much of a waste of money they are and where the cheapest place to get oil is or tyres etc but someone wants to save a bit of fuel and they've got the wrong car 
07 December 2014, 10:21 AM
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You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
07 December 2014, 12:16 PM
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You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
If you want a car that achieves respectable fuel economy, don't drive a turbocharged Impreza.
07 December 2014, 12:22 PM
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You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
You can sling mud coz I drive a wrx if you want, but just under 30mpg average isn't too bad, certainly doesn't worry me.
My Volvo diesel needed over a grand spent on it in repairs in the first month I owned it, the Subaru well under half that in seven years.
The impreza is also cheaper for me to insure if it was on the same policy as my Volvo diesel.
But I don't think this thread is about swapping a wrx for a diesel anyway!
07 December 2014, 06:22 PM
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Something for WRX owners hitting google who have been made to feel they made the wrong choice - this thread is an eye opener. STI owners do not read on.
WRX V STI
which is quicker to 60 mph a WRX or STI?
can a WRX beat an STI that has 100bhp more?
STI envy
What are the differences between an STI and WRX
Is it true a WRX is faster than an STI
Is the 5 speed WRX gearbox weak?
is the wrx the wrong choice
best subaru impreza ever made
wrx ppp
wrx blobeye
wrx hawkeye
wrx hatch
wrx saloon
JDM wrx
classic wrx
newage wrx
Why does the WRX use less fuel than an STI?
Do I need to forge my internals
Is it true a WRX will always keep up with an STI that has 20% more power
Benefits of 6 speed subaru Impreza STI box?
WRX V STI gear ratios
why the wrx is better for launching
6 speed STI box unusable
what do I need for 450bhp
which is faster with the same power STI or WRX
Are STI transmission losses more than a WRX?
Can a WRX beat an STI
Why do STI owners hate the WRX so much?
which is the best car to mod sti or wrx
which is the best car for the drag strip WRX or STI
post your wrx sti timeslips
stock wrx sti performance
why is the wrx faster than an sti?
why should I buy an sti
is the WRX good value?
best gearbox for subaru
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07 December 2014, 06:29 PM
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At 70-80 the MPG drops to around 25mpg, I don't know if it's due to my compression losses or what. I stick to 60mph on the Motorways so getting good MPG is deffo a compromise at times.
Ignore the STI fanboys, I've proved time and time again that the WRX is a far far better car in the real world.
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07 December 2014, 06:49 PM
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On a flat road run to Bridlington I can just about hit 40mpg sticking religiously to 50mph
At 70-80 the MPG drops to around 25mpg, I don't know if it's due to my compression losses or what. I stick to 60mph on the Motorways so getting good MPG is deffo a compromise at times.
Ignore the STI fanboys, I've proved time and time again that the WRX is a far far better car in the real world.
At 70-80 the MPG drops to around 25mpg, I don't know if it's due to my compression losses or what. I stick to 60mph on the Motorways so getting good MPG is deffo a compromise at times.
Ignore the STI fanboys, I've proved time and time again that the WRX is a far far better car in the real world.
07 December 2014, 06:51 PM
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i have driven both back to back for a couple of years and if you want performance handling and braking get the sti.
if you want a car that looks a bit like an sti but with none of the perfomance benefits get the wrx.
07 December 2014, 06:54 PM
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...though my car is only 11 years old, you filthy Mechanophile.
07 December 2014, 06:55 PM
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07 December 2014, 07:46 PM
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07 December 2014, 08:16 PM
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Cheaper to buy
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
07 December 2014, 08:33 PM
#52
Cheaper to buy
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
07 December 2014, 08:33 PM
#53
Cheaper to buy
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)
No brembo brakes
Comedy suspension
Weak engine
Weak gearbox
No avcs heads
No big spoiler that all the wrx box's want
As for faster that's only in your opinion remember I did 12.8 standing quarter with a passenger and 260 ish bhp,can't deny it you were there
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07 December 2014, 08:38 PM
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350bhp WRX humiliates 450bhp STI.
Comedy suspension is better for comedy UK roads.
WRX brakes are 2nd to Fred Flintstone's brakes.
07 December 2014, 08:45 PM
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07 December 2014, 08:47 PM
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So far 430bhp, 265bhp, 260bhp and 256bhp has been stated!
I think your 2013 comment of an STI need over 400bhp to get into the 12's gives the game away.
400bhp in a WRX and you'd be pushing mid 11's lol.
07 December 2014, 08:51 PM
#58
How many max power levels did you mange in that infamous June 2012 Santa Pod run?
So far 430bhp, 265bhp, 260bhp and 256bhp has been stated!
I think your 2013 comment of an STI need over 400bhp to get into the 12's gives the game away.
400bhp in a WRX and you'd be pushing mid 11's lol.
So far 430bhp, 265bhp, 260bhp and 256bhp has been stated!
I think your 2013 comment of an STI need over 400bhp to get into the 12's gives the game away.
400bhp in a WRX and you'd be pushing mid 11's lol.
07 December 2014, 08:52 PM
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How many max power levels did you mange in that infamous June 2012 Santa Pod run?
So far 430bhp, 265bhp, 260bhp and 256bhp has been stated!
I think your 2013 comment of an STI need over 400bhp to get into the 12's gives the game away.
400bhp in a WRX and you'd be pushing mid 11's lol.