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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Thought something was wrong, haha


Do you expect huge increase in iphone 6 sales as a result Jack?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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You should stop. Honestly you're making yourself seem dim.

Stores will do anything to take my money, I can pay in Bitcoin or via PayPal if I want, but you think they won't adopt Apple Pay. It launches tomorrow, watch and learn.
No, you have it wrong, it's not stores, it is Apple that will do anything to take your money! If you don't have your cash or card, which universally accepted in all retail stores including the Apple Store, you are **** out of luck!

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/...dopt-apple-pay
http://www.adweek.com/news/technolog...-wallet-160056
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...-expectations/

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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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I'm sure it's marvellous, but why would stores restrict themselves to apple users
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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They won't but seen as Apple sold more iPads globally than any other vendor and that includes HP and IBM and their other hardware sales ie laptops desktops pads etc... Apples sold I think 70mill units nearest was HP at 56mill.

So having that many out and about just make business sence to support it.
Cater for the masses and that's just what apples achieved I'm afraid....

Anyway roll on Thursday new iPad arrivs cos this iPad 2 is bab now lol... But hey it's 4 years old and still going....

If you watch the keynote they release the global sales numbers, very impressive ****...
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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Not quite sure what you're saying

Do you intend walk into stores and pay with your tablet / laptop?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
They won't but seen as Apple sold more iPads globally than any other vendor and that includes HP and IBM and their other hardware sales ie laptops desktops pads etc... Apples sold I think 70mill units nearest was HP at 56mill.

So having that many out and about just make business sence to support it.
Cater for the masses and that's just what apples achieved I'm afraid....

Anyway roll on Thursday new iPad arrivs cos this iPad 2 is bab now lol... But hey it's 4 years old and still going....

If you watch the keynote they release the global sales numbers, very impressive ****...
Now ask yourself, how many iPads have NFC? None is the answer. There is little incentive for retailers to shoulder the cost of upgrades to have Apple Pay in your store when proportionately, very few have Apple Pay capable devices and who are very much already likely to carry cash and cards already where the majority of all their payments come from.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Well that's Jack first out the blocks, down McDonalds allready

To order his breakfast macmuffin.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Well that's Jack first out the blocks, down McDonalds allready

To order his breakfast macmuffin.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Thought something was wrong, haha


Do you expect huge increase in iphone 6 sales as a result Jack?
Largest sales ever on launch day, I don't think there's a hurry to sell more.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
No, you have it wrong, it's not stores, it is Apple that will do anything to take your money! If you don't have your cash or card, which universally accepted in all retail stores including the Apple Store, you are **** out of luck!

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/...dopt-apple-pay
http://www.adweek.com/news/technolog...-wallet-160056
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...-expectations/
Don't fall for it Jon, let me let you into a secret, page views make money, controversy brings more visitors than positivity.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
I'm sure it's marvellous, but why would stores restrict themselves to apple users
Yeah, just like those shops that restrict themselves to visa, think of all those mastercard users, please stop being dim, it hurts.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
They won't but seen as Apple sold more iPads globally than any other vendor and that includes HP and IBM and their other hardware sales ie laptops desktops pads etc... Apples sold I think 70mill units nearest was HP at 56mill.

So having that many out and about just make business sence to support it.
Cater for the masses and that's just what apples achieved I'm afraid....

Anyway roll on Thursday new iPad arrivs cos this iPad 2 is bab now lol... But hey it's 4 years old and still going....

If you watch the keynote they release the global sales numbers, very impressive ****...
I want to order but need to sell my 5s first and can't, still waiting for the quadock case for my 6+, luckily it's practically an iPad.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Now ask yourself, how many iPads have NFC? None is the answer. There is little incentive for retailers to shoulder the cost of upgrades to have Apple Pay in your store when proportionately, very few have Apple Pay capable devices and who are very much already likely to carry cash and cards already where the majority of all their payments come from.
I think you're missing the point, iPad's were going to be a flop according to you and your ilk, you would have thought you'd have learnt to shut your mouth and use your eyes but no, you're setting yourself up again.

Cost of upgrade for retailers over expected NFC upgrades would be nothing, zero zilch.

"The publication reiterates rumors circulating prior to Apple Pay's debut on Tuesday, saying banks are offering Apple transaction fees lower than what is normally charged for credit card processing. These rates are not only lower than so-called "card not present" fees assigned to touch-less systems, but also traditional "card present" fees.

Banks are supposedly hoping to make up the difference by adding transaction volume driven by Apple Pay adoption. For example, customers may move from paying with cash or check to Apple's system.

In addition, The Times says credit card networks will not assume any additional cost in partnering with Apple, though analysts speculate Apple Pay may drive down interest rates. A large portion of credit card network fees go toward preventing fraud, but those expenses may drop once Apple Pay and Touch ID roll out, the report says."
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
"The publication reiterates rumors circulating prior to Apple Pay's debut on Tuesday, saying banks are offering Apple transaction fees lower than what is normally charged for credit card processing. These rates are not only lower than so-called "card not present" fees assigned to touch-less systems, but also traditional "card present" fees.

Banks are supposedly hoping to make up the difference by adding transaction volume driven by Apple Pay adoption. For example, customers may move from paying with cash or check to Apple's system.

In addition, The Times says credit card networks will not assume any additional cost in partnering with Apple, though analysts speculate Apple Pay may drive down interest rates. A large portion of credit card network fees go toward preventing fraud, but those expenses may drop once Apple Pay and Touch ID roll out, the report says."
Don't fall for it Jack, let me let you into a secret, page views make money, controversy brings more visitors than positivity.

So who will foot the bill for the upgrade to NFC payment terminals for stores that don't have NFC terminals?
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Yeah, just like those shops that restrict themselves to visa, think of all those mastercard users, please stop being dim, it hurts.
Give us a list of stores that don't accept Visa and/or Mastercard and I will give you a list of major retailers that won't be using Apple Pay.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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Give us a list of stores that don't accept Visa and/or Mastercard and I will give you a list of major retailers that won't be using Apple Pay.
Good god man, wake up. I was giving an example of how stupid your quote was, why on earth would a store not accept visa as well as matercard and why on earth would a store not accept Apple Pay? The two you listed are part of some system that Apple would make irrelevant, they make money on it. Wake up Jon.

Tell you what how about you stop commenting and we make a bet? $1,000,000 of payments in it's first year. You're certain it will be a flop and I'm certain it will be a success, I'll even raise that to $2,000,000.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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There's plenty places in Southern african who don't take Mastercard..

But that's okay, they'll just install apple pay
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Tell you what how about you stop commenting and we make a bet? $1,000,000 of payments in it's first year. You're certain it will be a flop and I'm certain it will be a success, I'll even raise that to $2,000,000.
I never said it would be flop, I just don't think it will ever replace cash or credit/debit cards payments. How about we bet on Apple Pay to become "the most used payment system in the world" since you are certain this is likely to happen.

ps. I don't accept Apple Pay payment! Cash or bank transfer only.

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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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There's plenty places in Southern african who don't take Mastercard..

But that's okay, they'll just install apple pay
Are you that desperate to comment that you'll make yourself look this stupid. Wake up man.

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Originally Posted by jonc
I never said it would be flop, I just don't think it will ever replace cash or credit/debit cards payments. How about we bet on Apple Pay to become "the most used payment system in the world" since you are certain this is likely to happen.

ps. I don't accept Apple Pay payment!
Stop with the flim flam, do you accept my bet? If yes then say so, or just **** off and be an idiot somewhere else.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Stop with the flim flam, do you accept my bet? If yes then say so, or just **** off and be an idiot somewhere else.
Not flim flam, since I never said it would flop. However you said it would be the most used payment in the world, put your money where your mouth is or shut up.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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He certainly did, he didn't say how long it might take though they , I guess


And as usual he's talking about total money moved about. Through small quantity of the elite

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He certainly did, he didn't say how long it might take though they , I guess
Doesn't matter. It's down to probability; everyone in the world who has cash use cash, most in the developed world have debit/credit card and all retailers on this planet accept cash and most accepting card payments. In comparison, how many people globally will have iPhone 6's and how many retailers accept Apple Pay? Significatly less is an understatement.

Any ways it looks like he's bottled it anyway.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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You two should get a room. A padded one.
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You two should get a room. A padded one.
FAIL!
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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And You should stop with drugs Jack
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Moving on.

Here's a great article explaining why you and merchants should use Apple Pay http://www.kirklennon.com/a/applepay.html
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Moving on.

Here's a great article explaining why you and merchants should use Apple Pay http://www.kirklennon.com/a/applepay.html
Only if you live in the US!
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Originally Posted by jonc
Only if you live in the US!
Oh good god man, give it a rest. What the **** is wrong with you? All you have to do is nothing, just do nothing, move on. I'm trying to help you, trying to make you look less stupid and all you do is pile on more stupid. Just move on.
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And you wonder why people think you're a bellend?
If by people you mean you and the other idiots that have spammed this thread then I really don't give a monkeys. Have a think about your behaviour, trolling, spammy, off topic comments, how do you think you look? Ignoring the Find my iPhone episode which I don't think you'll ever recover from.
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