alcazar

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What ARE you babbling on about now?

Is the KKK Illegal?
Do other Christians condemn it, both IN church and out?

HAVE you heard ANY FRENCH Muslims condemn ANYTHING evil or violent that ISIS or others have done in the name of Islam?

And if you don't like my rants, don't read them, there's a good little chap.

Kwik

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Or stick on the ignore list, it certainly works for me until someone quotes them lol.

Maz

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Oh do f@ck off you whining old tw@t! Moan moan, whine whine. I've yet to see anything positive posted by you. All you post is endless bollox whinging about one thing or another. I'm beginning to suspect your glasses only allow you to see in negative.
How about you start looking at the positive things in life, like your health and enjoy what little time you've got on this planet. You might actually enjoy the finite time you've got. I won't hold my breath, I'm convinced you enjoy having a moan. Just to let everyone know you're unhappy and trying to pollute everyone else's lives with your vitriol.

alcazar

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Just what I expected...no content, no argument, just vitriol...and yet you accuse me.

What a twonk.

Kwik

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An interesting debate on US tv. Affleck portrays a lot of the lefty nonsense displayed on this forum quite a lot.

RA Dunk

That lasted three and a half minutes before I got fed up with the crowd wooing and cheering every time someone made the slightest bit of a point. I hate American audiences!

stevebt

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A situation like this there will be a leader step forward and all the people will believe in him, he will show how these people are against us and it's in our interest to segregate them all.

Hitler did this and although you think it could never happen again it only takes the right leader and in this situation history will repeat itself!

Kwik

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Shame as there are some really good points made from both sides apart from Affleck.

An0n0m0us

It's a bit more than that. ISIS was formed out of Al Qaeda in Iraq which basically fell out with the Al Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan due to it's extremist idealogies being too extreme even for Al Qaeda and it refused to tow the line of the Al Qaeda leadership.

So Obama is right in claiming ISIS is Al Qaeda in as much it's where they have originated from however they are a breakaway faction which renamed themselves to disassociate themselves from Al Qaeda.

I know the OP is referring to France but I am happy to finally hear a voice from the Muslim Council of Great Britain denouncing what happened to Alan Henning and the attrocities ISIS are committing. My biggest criticism in the past was that they never said anything publicy when attrocities happened in the name of Islam and now they finally are coming out and denouncing such attrocities.

Kwik

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Where's that then? I've seen a few half hearted, obviously scripted and "going through the motions" statements but that's about it.

ditchmyster

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Not that i'm on one side or the other, but the yanks and brits are just as bad as the muzzies. I also don't see much in the way of condemnation for the acts committed by them.

P.S, there is only one race on this planet, some good and some bad.

alcazar

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There have been mass demonstrations in London against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, both before it all kicked off and when we went.

Then the British press got involved, started whipping up nationalism and "Help for heroes" etc, and no-one dared criticise, because if you did, you were tacitly criticising those fighting out there.

Martin2005

There were no 'mass demonstrations' prior to the war in Afganistan. You just made that up.

Too often do people willfully conflate the Afgan conflict with Iraq.

f1_fan

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Me neither, he regularly gets all 'tunnel vision' over one subject and goes all OCD about it seeing only what he wants to see. Bloke genuinely has a screw loose in my opinion.

neil-h

I read this and instantly thought of Nigel Farage.

Well this comment has actually restored my faith in Scoobynet. Thankyou.

f1_fan

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"On October 13, 2001, more than 20,000 people joined the UK's biggest protest yet against military action in Afghanistan by the United States and its allies. Turn-out was twice as big as had been expected by organisers, with the noisy but peaceful march through London culminating in a rally at Trafalgar Square."

So they were 6 days after it technically started, but there were demonstrations for three weeks prior all over the Western world with the main focus in the US and France.

alcazar

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Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

More Martin bull shine exposed.

Off you go and cry again Martin...or call me foul names or something...LOL

Martin2005

So you agree then, there were no 'mass' demonstrations in London

alcazar

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No it didn't, no it won't, no it hasn't...squawk.....

f1_fan

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A word of advice - if you're going to try and maintain a shred of credibility on this forum stop making **** up!

Martin2005

So you are equating the 'mass' 20k demo in London prior to the Afgan conflict, a conflict that had pretty much universal support amongst the British public with the 2 MILLION that demonstrated against Iraq?

Good sound logic there fella, as usual

Martin2005

Point out which bit I made up?

I wasn't the one claiming mass demonstrations, Alcazar was. And now apparently you are too.

Maz

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Well seeing as you and I are probably on his ignore list he won't be reading what we post.
In response to the question of muslim condemnation in the West, I put up several links which have been largely ignored. One which actually showed FRENCH CONDEMNATION. An online appeal for Alan Henning has been started and within a day it has collected nearly £15 000. Started by a muslim lass in Manchester and contributed to by people from all walks of life.


http://www.gofundme.com/ff04a4

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

You said there were no mass demonstrations and having now been found out you are claiming a technicality over the word mass.

Now go away and annoy someone else as my 'do-gooder and better than thou' tolerance threshold is especially low today.

f1_fan

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Yes Maz, but a large proportion of SN don't want to see things like that as it means they are wrong and of course people like Kwik are never wrong are they?

banny sti

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faith in humanity restored and you're a fellow type r owner to boot

Martin2005

'found out' I knew full well there was a small demo. Funnily enough I check my facts, I don't just post up bollox like Alcazar.

Approximately 380,000 more people demonstrated the ban on fox hunting ffs

Trying to equate Iraq to Afganistan by trying to reinvent history is just wrong.

BTW - It's not a fukin 'technicality', the Afgan protest was about 1% the size of the Iraq demo, you are trying to say they were the same....the fukin were not

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Whatever! We know you like to rewrite history to support your slightly odd views. Carry on and knock yourself out for all I care.

Martin2005

I'll take that as the closest thing to 'you were right then Martin' as I'm ever likely to get out of you.

Next time you want to fight Alcazar's battles I suggest you think it through more thoroughly

f1_fan

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Take it whatever way you like, but that's the last thing I meant. You are wrong and can't handle it as usual so now you write any old nonsense to try and make yourself look like less of an idiot.

Your basic claim was that the British public were behind the Afghanistan 'war'. They weren't. Deal with it!

PS It's not about me fighting anyone's battles, it's about you posting like your opinion is somehow fact! For the record I don't support alcazar's opinion on the original post whatsoever.