NOW we hear the Muslim voice.....
 

...in France, at least.

We have waited to hear them condemn the violence, the attacks, the kidnapping and the killings.

Finally, they have found their voice....

Have they condemned ANY of the above?

Nope, they have bemoaned the radicalistaion of their FEMALE children...and that the French government hasn't done enough to get them back...while they, themselves parade around in headscarves etc etc.

And today, a local imam was annoyed that people are speaking out against Islam, since "It's not all their fault, most Muslims are great etc etc....."

NOT A WORD against any of the violence.

You couldn't make it up, could you? I don't think they have a clue of the hate they are facing....

In fact, I'd say that quite a few westerners and non-Muslims now hate them as much as they seem to hate us infidels.

There's going to be an almighty collision soon.:(

But everyone hates the French though

http://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/co...-denounce-isis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-Algeria.html

Maybe if you're chronically hard of thinking. Those of us capable of putting a bit of thought into it realise that not all Muslims are knife wielding psyopaths.

Jeff likes to have a good rant. :D

Everybody hates Hollande anyway

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I hate all religions, those Mussies don't preferential treatment from me! :lol1:

Billy Connolly sums up religion nicely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwoo...ature=youtu.be

You've had a couple of thousand years, youve fcuked it it's over, take your Reformation, your Vatican, your Mecca and fcuk off!! :D

That's not what he is saying. This situation has 2 different groups of people under the same religion. One that is barbaric and other are apparently peaceful. The peaceful don't seem to be actively doing too much, either within the western countries that have taken them in or in their own countries.
They certainly don't seem to be as passionate about recent events.

The cowards hide among the peaceful, the peaceful don't appear to be doing too much to seperate themselves, apart from a piss-poor youtube video.

So what is the solution? To either not act and not go to war, or to go to war and have another generation apparently hating the west. And so war it is, but a modern war, a more PC war means targets have to be picked out as much as possible, instead of good old fashioned bombing the utter **** out of somewhere into surrender. Being more PC has cost us and will cost us casualties.

At least the Nazi's had the bollocks to stand up and say who they were.

And the hate continues to rise amongst the British people watching their own people being beheaded. Hate for Muslims, because we despise the barbaric side and do not trust the apparent peaceful side.

Civil war is just a matter of time.

Even al-Qaeda think Isil are despicable

Or perhaps it makes better headlines to feature the nut jobs.

Clearly not listening mate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...n_5538169.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_military_intervention_against_ISIS

Nothing but condemnation from moderate Islam today. Where do you get your 'news' from?

Hardly passionate though is it, more like scripted and going through the motions.

How is it that every poster in this thread so far has failed to grasp that the OP is talking about a lack of public condemnation of IS from moderate Muslims in France?

If you're not sure why this matters, take a look at the graph around two-thirds of the way down this page, and bear in mind there are probably double (if not more) the number of Muslim immigrants or people of Muslim immigrant origin living in France as there are in Britain:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29359901

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Tell me Martin.....which FRENCH TV channel have YOU seen condemnation on?

I refer you to the first line of my post.

You seem to have entirely missed it...what a surprise....

The late responses?
The few people involved?
The lack of emotion?
The lack of any demonstrations?

You're banging your head against a brick wall. The Muslim communities around the world have displayed a watered down, scripted disgust at what has happened to Alan Henning. Whilst non Muslims are growing more and more passionate by the day, and more driven to act in the near future.
The general consensus is that British Muslims don't particularly care, and that a few mentions in Mosques around Britain is supposed to prove anything else.

I'd imagine those deleting their replies on here asking why I have reached this conclusion realised my response would be to ask what exactly they had done to display their disgust (instead of just attacking anyone white/british who dares to have a different opinion to theirs).

If you say so, although I don't consider you the authority speaking on behalf the British public, as you would have us believe.

I dont have the inclination to get into this with you hence deleting my post, otherwise you might be sending me apologies via Mantas again...

Brilliant, maybe if Billy had led the independence campaign things might have had a different outcome.
Saw Billy live last week for the 3rd or 4th time, shame to see that his health is starting to fail, he was still very funny but after watching this clip it's clear he's lost some of the real sharp edge to his humor that set him apart from other comedians.

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Both are in existance, So which is worst, is any one better than the other?

His early (very early) stuff is by far his best IMo. :lol1:

Regarding one of the issues being mentioned in this thread he does make a point the Muslims were very quick to make a stand and raise their voices when it came to the cartoon thing, but they haven't been so quick to raise their voices aginst IS.

Apparently I said something wrong, and was big enough to attempt to talk things out with the person I offended. You obviously still hold a grudge and didn't want to sort things in a mature fashion and instead ignored any apology and have made no attempt since to see something from someone else's point of view.
I've had similar conversations with other members on here, either when they have offended me or vice versa and 9/10 the matter has been resolved.

I'm sure this is because I am thick, have no valid opinion and because I'm a ****. Nothing to do with the fact I am white/british at all .

Without researching it fully I'll assume that the majority of any members of the KKK who have been arrested for offences were either ousted, grassed upon, arrested and convicted by "their own" people.

Nope, but the BIG difference is that the KKK are illegal and roundly condemned by other Christians, while the lower groups are either ignored, or tacitly supported by the Muslim community.

You got anything to back that up with? Evidence or hard facts or is it another one of your seemingly endless rants?

Well said. I see the KKK as being just as vile, but I'm free to express that opinion because KKK would be the same race as me.