A45 AMG, some issues.
05 December 2014, 03:30 PM
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I don't know what car/power you have but unless you have been up against the same cars as me,in the same scenario,you don't know if you'd beat or stay with them.maybe you would too
05 December 2014, 03:45 PM
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I did say without launching it. Were you expecting 4.5 to 60 in a hardly featherweight 2.0 with a turbo big enough to do 320 HP without launching?
Consider that even a standard GTR will accelerate by about 10mph during a 0-60 in the 0.5 seconds that it takes a good Subaru driver to change gear.
Having tuned many 320 BHP Subarus, there is not a hope in hell for the Subaru, sorry.
05 December 2014, 04:11 PM
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I did say without launching it. Were you expecting 4.5 to 60 in a hardly featherweight 2.0 with a turbo big enough to do 320 HP without launching?
Consider that even a standard GTR will accelerate by about 10mph during a 0-60 in the 0.5 seconds that it takes a good Subaru driver to change gear.
Having tuned many 320 BHP Subarus, there is not a hope in hell for the Subaru, sorry.
Consider that even a standard GTR will accelerate by about 10mph during a 0-60 in the 0.5 seconds that it takes a good Subaru driver to change gear.
Having tuned many 320 BHP Subarus, there is not a hope in hell for the Subaru, sorry.
I don't need to consider anything, read the last part of my post, and don't apologise, I'm under no illusions.
05 December 2014, 04:18 PM
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Not sure don't think hes said pricing yet, Involved new turbo and remap,
Note stock HP, very rare u get a factory A45 running MB quoted 360, there more often 375 upwards , MSLs GLA45 came from factory running 395BHP
Modifications:
Upgraded Turbo
ECU remap (torque is limited to 555Nm)
STOCK INTAKE AND STOCK EXHAUST !!!
- 98 RON / 93 AKI fuel
- ECE / EWG corrected engine results on SuperFlow dyno, same car, same dyno, same fuel
- WHP is the measured / not corrected value
STOCK: 328 AWHP / 374 hp at crank / 442 Nm engine torque
STAGE 1: 361 AWHP / 414 hp at crank / 514 Nm engine torque
STAGE 2: 393 AWHP / 460 hp at crank / 540 Nm engine torque
Link to Graphs
http://www.aclassclub.co.uk/forum/th...057_page2.html
Note stock HP, very rare u get a factory A45 running MB quoted 360, there more often 375 upwards , MSLs GLA45 came from factory running 395BHP
Modifications:
Upgraded Turbo
ECU remap (torque is limited to 555Nm)
STOCK INTAKE AND STOCK EXHAUST !!!
- 98 RON / 93 AKI fuel
- ECE / EWG corrected engine results on SuperFlow dyno, same car, same dyno, same fuel
- WHP is the measured / not corrected value
STOCK: 328 AWHP / 374 hp at crank / 442 Nm engine torque
STAGE 1: 361 AWHP / 414 hp at crank / 514 Nm engine torque
STAGE 2: 393 AWHP / 460 hp at crank / 540 Nm engine torque
Link to Graphs
http://www.aclassclub.co.uk/forum/th...057_page2.html
Thanks for the info. I think these are now my new target car to own, shame you cant get a manual for comparison but I suspect the gearbox has a lot to do with what makes it so great as with many of the new cars.
05 December 2014, 04:26 PM
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20-50mph in 2nd gear then...
VR38 with twin turbos and the very definition of instatorque and epic traction is going to pull 1g of acceleration when you do that.
Driver error, misunderstanding, apples with oranges, but go and do that to a GTR in 2nd gear and tell me you are serious.
VR38 with twin turbos and the very definition of instatorque and epic traction is going to pull 1g of acceleration when you do that.
Driver error, misunderstanding, apples with oranges, but go and do that to a GTR in 2nd gear and tell me you are serious.
05 December 2014, 04:33 PM
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Well you're thick if you can't tell if another car is racing or not!! And yes i am talking about punching it in 2nd. I had my window down and was listening to it,its not everyday im behind one so wanted to hear it go! And yes he booted it,if only for a sec or two
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05 December 2014, 04:42 PM
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I get that bigger turbo = more lag, but the STI has bigger turbo and isn't that about the same with PPP fitted, with an extra gear change thrown in to the mix. So yes regarding a 320 brake WRX, I do believe 4.5 isn't in the realms of fantasy.
05 December 2014, 04:42 PM
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If relying on datalogs rather than listening to another car makes me thick then I will remain thick. The reality is if you'd been in an R35 GTR punched in 2nd we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
05 December 2014, 04:44 PM
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The figure banded about by people regarding WRX PPP is 4.8 seconds to sixty.
I get that bigger turbo = more lag, but the STI has bigger turbo and isn't that about the same with PPP fitted, with an extra gear change thrown in to the mix. So yes regarding a 320 brake WRX, I do believe 4.5 isn't in the realms of fantasy.
I get that bigger turbo = more lag, but the STI has bigger turbo and isn't that about the same with PPP fitted, with an extra gear change thrown in to the mix. So yes regarding a 320 brake WRX, I do believe 4.5 isn't in the realms of fantasy.
Do you think I'm wet behind the ears about Subarus or something?
05 December 2014, 04:51 PM
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0-60 in 5 in a real 320 HP WRX without a launch is probably decent. This is 0.55g. GTR with a stage 1 map pulls similar g through 1st and 2nd at about a third throttle - ie not trying. I do it just driving out a junction normally every day I drive it. He wasn't trying.
05 December 2014, 05:39 PM
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Well just to add some balance from an old WRX shed owner, mine has PPP and I'm under no illusions about it's performance, my old 04 mapped WRX (paul Blamere who said he was amazed by it) was however one of those cars that defies all the stats, I was behind an M3 in Germany when we both gunned it expecting to be left yet at circa 160mph on my clock I was flashing him to move out of the way, this car would go off the clock at will, never taken my current one above about 130mph it's my daily and I don't want to break it, when I've finished my £3k 650bhp capable forged build I'll be posting my findings.
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05 December 2014, 05:59 PM
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Whoa hold on there bud. Banksy came out with a comment, to which I offered a differing opinion. He then said do I think it would do 4.5 to 60? Note the question mark, which I took to mean that it was a question! To which I gave my answer to, then was told by the person that asked the question why we were discussing it! 
And then get accused of troll posting! . . . . Really!
And then get accused of troll posting! . . . . Really!
05 December 2014, 06:11 PM
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Whoa hold on there bud. Banksy came out with a comment, to which I offered a differing opinion. He then said do I think it would do 4.5 to 60? Note the question mark, which I took to mean that it was a question! To which I gave my answer to, then was told by the person that asked the question why we were discussing it!
And then get accused of troll posting! . . . . Really!
And then get accused of troll posting! . . . . Really!
05 December 2014, 06:14 PM
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A 545i is slower than an S5. And S5 is slower than an R8.
I've only had a proper "run" with a V8 Vantage and we were totally matched fairly tight, rural road). I'm pretty certain I'd match or beat an S5 but not a well driven R8.
05 December 2014, 06:31 PM
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The r8 was the v8 though not the v10. This shouldn't be too hard for you to believe if you've had similar experiences yourself!?
05 December 2014, 06:35 PM
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Well just to add some balance from an old WRX shed owner, mine has PPP and I'm under no illusions about it's performance, my old 04 mapped WRX (paul Blamere who said he was amazed by it) was however one of those cars that defies all the stats, I was behind an M3 in Germany when we both gunned it expecting to be left yet at circa 160mph on my clock I was flashing him to move out of the way, this car would go off the clock at will, never taken my current one above about 130mph it's my daily and I don't want to break it, when I've finished my £3k 650bhp capable forged build I'll be posting my findings.
05 December 2014, 06:42 PM
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Well just to add some balance from an old WRX shed owner, mine has PPP and I'm under no illusions about it's performance, my old 04 mapped WRX (paul Blamere who said he was amazed by it) was however one of those cars that defies all the stats, I was behind an M3 in Germany when we both gunned it expecting to be left yet at circa 160mph on my clock I was flashing him to move out of the way, this car would go off the clock at will, never taken my current one above about 130mph it's my daily and I don't want to break it, when I've finished my £3k 650bhp capable forged build I'll be posting my findings.
05 December 2014, 06:43 PM
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Please stop posting, we're really not interested.
Back on topic please, this is an A45 thread so unles you've slayed one of these please get back over to the mycaristhebestestandfasterthanyour thread
Back on topic please, this is an A45 thread so unles you've slayed one of these please get back over to the mycaristhebestestandfasterthanyour thread
05 December 2014, 06:43 PM
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My E46 M3 was easily overtaken by a 340HP MY00 UK turbo once it could hang onto a tall gear, but the M3 had the edge at lower speeds off a roundabout even though it was RWD and he was flatshifting the Subaru.
05 December 2014, 06:58 PM
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Doubt you would achieve 175 jimbob, I've had 150 on the speedo (own private runway of course) and from memory pretty sure that was at 6000rpm. It was still pulling and felt like it had another 10 mile per hour left in it but at those speeds the speedo is going to way over read, so my guess is your speedo reading of 160 at 6000rpm was waaaay off.
Or your just on crack
P.s at that speedo reading there was no drama, misses rowdy was even applying some lippy in the passenger seat.
P.p.s sorry buyakasha
05 December 2014, 06:59 PM
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Maybe you should read back a bit! This all started when i mentioned pulling away from one
05 December 2014, 07:05 PM
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My wagon was standard except exhaust and air filter. We never went round any turns or roundabouts,just straight line from about 30mph to 100-110mph and he wasn't going anywhere
05 December 2014, 07:12 PM
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That's what started him off.
Doubt you would achieve 175 jimbob, I've had 150 on the speedo (own private runway of course) and from memory pretty sure that was at 6000rpm. It was still pulling and felt like it had another 10 mile per hour left in it but at those speeds the speedo is going to way over read, so my guess is your speedo reading of 160 at 6000rpm was waaaay off.
Or your just on crack
P.s at that speedo reading there was no drama, misses rowdy was even applying some lippy in the passenger seat.
P.p.s sorry buyakasha