terzoscooby

What really worries me is Tony was asked to sign an NDA. This could be a field day for Anti bribery lawyers. Why would a manufacturer ask a customer to sign an NDA over a product failure?

fat-thomas

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just to add to that i know the new owner of emzs old 2.5 wrx hawk and that also suffered hg failure

hodgy0_2

Mmmmm, ok, point taken

Landover had a similar sort of thing (design fault) on their Rover V8 engines

urban

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Not the first time they've bought someone's silence

terzoscooby

No, but I thought those days were gone. I think the class action lawyers in the US might be interested in customers being silenced.

Littleted

because they prob have the 320 and 340R maps think Tonys was 340, that weren't actually pushing 340. Dodgy though to say the least.

I think the biggest gripe we all have with the 2.5s is that Subaru didn't issue a recall and fix the issue, with what we all deemed the solution forged Pistons.

I read 100s of posts when I had mine, and it all seems to relate to either bouncing off the Limiter, the engine being slow to adjust to Knock, and OIL/Fuel starvation on one side of the engine, we all speculated what it could be.

Subaru had a trump card though being a Scooby they knew it could be and would be remapped by the users, so using this as fuel to deny claims hurt even more.

So why change a plan that's working, we go on bleating, they just keep selling the cars to people, and if they do go to court what of it then ? recall ? compensation ?

if you really need a Scooby then run it for 3 years don't touch it and sell it.
or pay to play.

anyway can I just say id destroy Cheryl cole.....

NormantheDog

When you say 'destroy' what exactly does that mean?

There are a lot of these coming on to the market now with people part exchanging for the new one. What would people advise buy it and see if it goes bang or allow for forging it in your budget and get it done immediately? If the latter how much are you looking at?

The problem with a used one is you will never know how the previous person drove it. If you buy a good example from a Subaru Dealer they give you a 12 month Subaru warranty and it goes bang. They scan the engine history and find the previous owner razzed the ***** off it who takes responsibility then? Can they actually tell the mark at which the new owner took over?

urban

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I believe the man is trying to say that he'd ride the life out of her.

f1_fan

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You'd best be into tattoos in that case

NormantheDog

You mean flatten that poor rose?

urban

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I'd say in all honest you'd be fcuked, as Subaru UK would simply say its been modified.

Littleted

Normi, yeah its a way of saying id let her sleep with me .

Yeah your right about the Subaru history, I think that Cossi you looked at stated that case, not serviced in 19months wowser....

theres only 1 Subaru id have and that's a 22B..

NormantheDog

What a lucky girl she is

I think the Cossi is a different kettle of fish to this thread though in fairness but know what you are saying. What I am trying to say is you will never know how the previous owner treated the car modifications or not and if Subaru's get out is it has been redlined at some point then you are screwed double by them.

thenewgalaxy

Madness.

Buy a car for c. £50k. Doesn't spend £100-£150 servicing it.

ALi-B

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They had a whole plethroa of design/quality faults. Many they addressed over it 50odd year history - I can list them all if you want.

NormantheDog

So how much would it cost to forge one before it went bang?

T5NYW

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To be fair probably not a great difference in cost if went bang and forged it compared to doing it before it went. Unless it runs out of oil.

To be fair my pistons didn't fail. A piston ring was broke and maybe done in assembly.

I only forged pistons as a precaution whilst it was out.

My car is a standard 340r.

I've had the 340 map independently checked yes it's a very rich map but not a bad off the shelf map. Yes a custom remap would be better but that's always the case

Tony

BROOKS1E

Nice one mate .... so maybe i should add that one to my little list too then and oh and Nick`s Spec D also suffered H.G.failure too .............. im sure there maybe someone else i have forgotten

NormantheDog

Hi Tony genuine question could you Message me the approximate cost if you know it?

terzoscooby

Tony, what makes you think this? There are loads of causes for ring failure e.g. Over reving by snatching wrong gear, material defect, corrosion fatigue through short runs or corrosion sticking to bore, overheating, wrong gap, wrong piston groove width over filling with oil, pinking etc.

Littleted

Norman I have 2 quotes from a few years ago, aprox 10k and 6k for a 450BHP build

NormantheDog

That's a lot why £4 k difference? Better off with a new one then

Infected by sti

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You can have a decent bottom end done for 3k that is rated to 450. It's not so much the cost of the pistons and rods etc, it's when you have to start adding bits in like head gaskets, timing belt kit, water pump etc it starts to get expensive, then the labour of pulling engine in and out and your builders time and knowledge, that's before even looking at the heads and stem seals etc.

T5NYW

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Hence a maybe.

I did 1000 run in and oil change.
Been irrational oil usage since 7months old
Never overfilled
340 map really rich doubt pinking
Never over rev,d
Never overheated
Ran everyday never stood
not top or bottom ring and only one piston.

Tony

terzoscooby

Sounds like it broke at 7 months old then. Could easily be due to carbon deposits building up with all those short runs. How old was it when you had the 340R upgrade?

T5NYW

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ProR pack fitted at About 6months.

Ive now "ran in" 1k miles and oil change at dealer. Proper oil aswell. but im thinking now about selling the old girl.

Tony