hodgy0_2

What a pathetic pre-enlightenment Panglossian response

In other words "All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds"

A religious fundamentalist commenting on other religious fundamentalist

Same coin - different side

Inhuman and Pathetic

hodgy0_2

You can argue the toss about the Irish governments involvement all you like

My point is there was a porous border between the UK and Ireland - Arms flowed across, the IRA were given Safe harbour and carried out raids across it

We however, did not indiscriminatly bomb them to the Stone Age

Matteeboy

That old cop out "God knows what's best" and it's "God's will."

Well seeing as he's a made up non entity, I do see flaws in using those lines to solve wars.

hodgy0_2

Yep, And as I have previously pointed out, the same anti humanity and morally bankrupt philosophy that suicide bombers are taught, giving them the strength to strap their murderous belt on

Same coin just a different side

Shaid

I suggest you leave your god alone for a while and look at the human aspect of what you are supporting.

Shaid

Yep... God stands by and watches his creation slaughter one when according to almost every religion out there he has the power to stop it all and also he knew it is going to happen. Frankly people slaughtering one another is gods own will. How effed up is that?

Jamie

He was great at football now in a sad state

JTaylor

Are you an atheist, Shaid?

Shaid

Nope, although i share many sentiments with atheists.

I am a Muslim who is fed up of gods inactions in this world which makes anyone with half a brain question a lot of things. God could fix the worlds problems by coming in everyones dream and making some sort of statement. We would all wake up having had the same dream and that would be the end to most of the worlds violence. Of course the Americans would still be trying to find excuses to get their fingers where the natural resources are at.

Plus i support humanity over anything. I don't like bullies at all.

Be they ISIS killing Christians in Iraq or Allied Forces bringing 'freedom' to Iraq. The excuses people make for Israels actions is an indication how low humanity has stooped.

You know very well i view the human species as a parasite on the planet earth that mother nature / god has let have a free reign for far too long.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing civilians including children?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International fordemolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States , according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S. ?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? ?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?
Answer: Israel

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
Answer: Israel

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East created millions of refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?
Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents from USA and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union ?
Answer: Israel

Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?
Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid to the world yet is the 16th richest country in the world?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America ?"
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?
Answer: Israel

JTaylor

Thanks for your response, Shaid. I'm finding the two points above difficult to reconcile, would you mind elucidating a little?

tony de wonderful

I don't remember rockets being fired from Ireland by the the Irish armed forces.

There was no porous border between The Republic and Northern Ireland, it was controlled with checkpoints etc.

As for 'safe harbour', can you prove this?

The Irish government never had a stated goal of the ethnic cleansing of Britain.

Careful you don't do your back in with the stretch involved in this comparison.

Matteeboy

So should those that believe in fairies annihilate those that are fairly sure they don't exist?

Should those that believe in ghosts wage war against the fairy believers? Maybe the ghosties should kick those damn fairy believers out of their houses? If a few die on the way, who cares?

Yes, this is how retarded religious wars are.

tony de wonderful

Zionism is just the idea of a Jewish nation state. I'm sorry you think this is an inherently evil idea. Maybe it says something about what you think of Jewish people?

Maz

iTrader: (34)

I have no problem with Jewish people whatsoever. I do have an issue with genocide and persecution though. Incidentally when did you become an authority on Zionism and it's ideals?

banny sti

iTrader: (68)

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Pah what do they know?!
Joe is the authority.

neil-h

I would love to see you prove that.

tony de wonderful

When did you? You keep banging on about Zionism like it is inherently bad, and I'm not sure why?

What other ethnic groups aren't allowed their own state in your book?

dpb

What other ethnic group are allowed their own state...?

If it is indeed an ethnicity at all

Shaid

Why do you take the position of contraire?

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Jews are neither a race nor an ethnicity. The establishment of Israel is no more just than a group of (insert religion of choice) from various corners of the world begging,stealing and seizing land in someone else's country.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

It's Joe's default Aunt Sally technique.

banny sti

iTrader: (68)

He cant help but be a wnaker, I shut him down a couple of years back when I stuck his pic up but he seems to have got his ***** back

JTaylor

https://www.scoobynet.com/942387-why...married-3.html

Post 65 onwards. I love a good argument!

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Jews are clearly not a race. Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA.

tony de wonderful

Every ethnicity/race is constructed. Jewishness is no less real than being black or being Muslim or being Aboriginal Australian.

dpb

Don't be daft

tony de wonderful

Then all people who can roll their tongue are one race lol.

Geneticists agree that there is as much genetic variation within 'races' as across all over humanity.

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