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Old 11 July 2014, 06:10 PM
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Don't worry, they wont realy care that your watching goat ****
Old 11 July 2014, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
In Westminster you will find all walks of life, as you will in any profession.
Yes I agree to an extent, I'm talking about active paedo's right now in Westminster as well as the mass covering up in the 70s till present day.
It bothers me the the people that run our country also run organised paedo rings.
Old 11 July 2014, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
How exactly - please expand?
As said before false flags are covert military operations designed to deceive us in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by terrorist groups other than those who actually execute them.

False flags go right back to roman times and are frequently used now to empower us with more laws and acts, control over the masses with scare tactics.
You are 7 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
Old 11 July 2014, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You shouldn't be so liberal with the word 'never' then.

btw - would you care to expand on how this law is being brought in for 'their own ends' - what exactly do you mean by that?
Well sorreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

As for "their own ends", they seem to be able to overrule Europe if it suits their plans, but not when the population complain, not when it's showering us with ****. Then it's the throwing up of the arms and the whiny, "What can weeeee do?"

Government = liars.
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Originally Posted by stipete75
False flag (or black flag) describes covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.

As for mr Saville, he was not an secret operative working for the government,however he was one of many famous runners for the powers that be.
Besties with Charles and who ever was in power at no 10 his sick ****** ways only came out when he died, the dead don't talk.
So your "evidence" is a straight copy and paste from Wikipedia ! and you say we're the ones who are brainwashed!

So Savile went on No. 10 and met Prince Charlesa few times, and so have countless other celebrities, what's your point?
Old 11 July 2014, 08:44 PM
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So your "evidence" is a straight copy and paste from Wikipedia ! and you say we're the ones who are brainwashed!

So Savile went on No. 10 and met Prince Charlesa few times, and so have countless other celebrities, what's your point?
Copy n pasted (not from wiki)as couldn't be ar5ed to type over n over, simple!! Believe me when I say I'm not the one that's brainwashed.

My point is we obviously have very different opinions and outlooks.
I don't let my beliefs rule my life, I'm very open minded and opinionated and look for the truths.

If you don't believe high end politicians, judges, high ranking police officials and the royals are all apart of an elite ring that help and cover for each other then so what, It's all starting to come out now, but as per usual the lower end MPs will get the majority of the blame, and god forbid it ever come out regarding the royals, they are to important and valuable to the uk economy so would be covered up at all costs.
Guess we will never truly know the truth.
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Copy n pasted (not from wiki)as couldn't be ar5ed to type over n over, simple!! Believe me when I say I'm not the one that's brainwashed.

My point is we obviously have very different opinions and outlooks.
I don't let my beliefs rule my life, I'm very open minded and opinionated and look for the truths.

If you don't believe high end politicians, judges, high ranking police officials and the royals are all apart of an elite ring that help and cover for each other then so what, It's all starting to come out now, but as per usual the lower end MPs will get the majority of the blame, and god forbid it ever come out regarding the royals, they are to important and valuable to the uk economy so would be covered up at all costs.
Guess we will never truly know the truth.
Are you saying the Royal's are child molesters now as well??

It's amazing what you can get away with saying from the safety of a computer these days isn't it?

I say put up or shut up
Old 11 July 2014, 11:09 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm sensing danger when reading this thread. As a result, I'm in APPROPRIATE ATTIRE.

Old 11 July 2014, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Are you saying the Royal's are child molesters now as well??

It's amazing what you can get away with saying from the safety of a computer these days isn't it?

I say put up or shut up
With all the "facts" he's openly posting on the internet, I'm surprised he's not sh!tting himself right now as GCHQ and other covert/secret Government agencies are monitoring him right now.....oh no wait, stipete75 might not be his real name so they'll never trace him........
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There are 2 ways of looking at this, they are violating peoples rights so tell them to shove this law and let any terrorist kill innocent people because you have to go back to using bods on the ground or use every means possible to stop these guys, and they are a threat, it doesn't take that many people to cause a panic and ones that blow themselves up because they have been deluded by some mad mullah and promised lots of virgins for dying well.....

I'm for it but it has to be governed properly to ensure the minimum amount of intrusion into peoples private lives before being suspected of offenses.

Tony
Old 12 July 2014, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
My point is we obviously have very different opinions and outlooks.
I don't let my beliefs rule my life, I'm very open minded and opinionated and look for the truths.
Gotta be honest that's not what I see in your posts at all
Old 12 July 2014, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Are you saying the Royal's are child molesters now as well??

It's amazing what you can get away with saying from the safety of a computer these days isn't it?

I say put up or shut up
I'd say in how ever many weeks months or years, you will look back on the good ole snet days and say to yourself **** me, he was righ all along.
Old 12 July 2014, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bored Secretary
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sensing danger when reading this thread. As a result, I'm in APPROPRIATE ATTIRE.

Old hat, not tin hat mate
Old 12 July 2014, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Gotta be honest that's not what I see in your posts at all
I'm in the minority on here.
This does not rule my life, luckily i have the time and finances to enjoy my research and I do enjoy it.
The only times this interrupts my life is in the consumer/subliminal brainwashing ways,I'm very conscious of this and can see it for what it is hence consciously don't let it affect me.
Old 12 July 2014, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I'm in the minority on here.
This does not rule my life, luckily i have the time and finances to enjoy my research and I do enjoy it.
The only times this interrupts my life is in the consumer/subliminal brainwashing ways,I'm very conscious of this and can see it for what it is hence consciously don't let it affect me.
What research do you do? I'm not baiting, just genuinely curious. Research doesn't simply involve trawling the net for the ramblings of other stipete75s, obviously. How do you decide whose opinion is right and wrong? Who do you speak to? What access to files do you have that we don't?

What is the aim of this research and are you going to publish your findings?

I mean, I haven't been on here long as you can see, so this is a snap opinion based on some posts in a couple of threads I've read. But suffice to say you're my favourite poster on here in sheer entertainment terms, by far.

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Old 12 July 2014, 01:40 PM
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There is a small group of us (never met) yet!
We mainly talk openly on another popular forum(bodybuilding forum) about topics raised much like snet off topic threads.
We discuss recent events as well as all the old, from 9/11 to multiculturalism divide n conquer, My main area on research is the term "false flags" boston bombings 7/7,crisis workers etc, it's a marmite topic that can generate much hate but I find the evidence interesting and very evident!!
The police state is also high on my agenda, terrorism laws acts and why they enforce these acts etc. Also the obvious like government cover ups,constant subliminal messages, mi5 CIA NSA cover ups.

Yes it's mainly on the internet but nearly always independent sites etc. YouTube has some very informative videos,certain videos always seem to get taken down though so it's pot luck when they pop back up.

We enjoy what we do, uncovering certain things, always on the look out, keeps my brain engaged.
I get tin hat brigade and the likes constantly but I don't really mind, comes with the territory.
There is definately 100% a whole new world out there to discover.
I'm glad you enjoy my posts, rightly or wrongly
Old 12 July 2014, 01:54 PM
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That's fair enough. I don't want to pick holes in it, as it's clear that you genuinely enjoy what you do.

Going against popular opinion with such unorthodox views does leave you open to ridicule, but you accept that with good grace. Best of luck to you. You are my favourite poster, but that's because your views are so alien to mine. You shouldn't be insulted by it.

One thing though is that you call yourself open minded. Forgive me, but you come across to everyone as closed minded. Open mindedness isn't about simply disbelieving the government or establishment; it's also about leaving open the possibility they might be right.

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Old 12 July 2014, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bored Secretary
That's fair enough. I don't want to pick holes in it, as it's clear that you genuinely enjoy what you do.

Going against popular opinion with such unorthodox views does leave you open to ridicule, but you accept that with good grace. Best of luck to you. You are my favourite poster, but that's because your views are so alien to mine. You shouldn't be insulted by it.

One thing though is that you call yourself open minded. Forgive me, but you come across to everyone as closed minded. Open mindedness isn't about simply disbelieving the government or establishment; it's also about leaving open the possibility they might be right.
I'm generally a very open minded person in every day life, at work with family and friends.
I see what you are saying though, maybe I'm not quite so open minded as I should be with regards to the rights and wrongs of conspiracy theories, I do listen read and watch a variety of stuff,, with regards to certain subjects perhaps I am biased to what Iv read and seen as a multitude of it is obvious to me.
Their is an agenda, the purpose of it who really knows, time will 100% tell I guess.
Old 12 July 2014, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Their is an agenda, the purpose of it who really knows, time will 100% tell I guess.
There is no "agenda"

It is simply the fact that wealth and power tend to get ever concentrated in fewer and fewer hands

And wealthy and powerful people (and organisations) have the ability to manipulated the world they live in to their advantage - that is the great thing about being wealthy and powerful

And publicly available statistic on things like "share of the national income", "average wages/income" for the last 30 years and the fact the 60 odd people, combined, have more wealth than the lowest 40% of the worlds population etc demonstrates this - it's not hidden

They don't really have to bother about sitting around in under ground bunkers stroking white cats - stop living in a James Bond movie

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Not keen on Mr Bond films tbh.
The rich and powerful or the elite as some might say, their agenda with regards to us peasants is hugely about ever increasing wealth for them, more importantly about the power that goes with this wealth. The divide over wealth and power is ever increasing. We struggle away doing as we are told working a 9-5 daily paying taxes and vat on everything, we listen to the news and read the papers daily believing everything that is said, Kate and wills this, justin ball bags that, we need to invade this country because of terror threats.
We take it all in and more importantly without questioning.
The constant televised adverts, you must buy this yogurt because Nicole shirtswinger is paid to eat it, you must look skinny and beautiful like so and so because no one likes ugly people.
Take your children to game station to buy gta and cod, it's all about killing drugs etc, all kids love it and play them.
Multiculturalism divide and conquer,immigration. It's a form of control and the government know this, it causes huge debate over housing jobs etc, we are easier to control this way as we are not as one.
Through the news, they have you believe that you should be scared constantly(again a form of control) through imminent terrorist attacks, that in turn allows them to introduce new laws and acts and more police powers eradicating more of our basic freedoms and we let them because we are scared and we don't question it.
If it can happen to poor drummer Lee Rigby on home soil then we must be scared because it could happen to us.
It's like a real life soap opera being played out in real time.
Equilibrium and minority report is around the corner

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Old 12 July 2014, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I'm generally a very open minded person in every day life, at work with family and friends.
I see what you are saying though, maybe I'm not quite so open minded as I should be with regards to the rights and wrongs of conspiracy theories, I do listen read and watch a variety of stuff,, with regards to certain subjects perhaps I am biased to what Iv read and seen as a multitude of it is obvious to me.
Their is an agenda, the purpose of it who really knows, time will 100% tell I guess.
See this is why I find your posts so entertaining, you quote all the standard conspiracy theories and shout down anyone who disagrees as being a good little brainwashed consumer. The thing is not everything is a part of a plot orchestrated by the governments to control the masses and/or divert their attention from the new world order.
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Not keen on Mr Bond films tbh.
The rich and powerful or the elite as some might say, their agenda with regards to us peasants is hugely about ever increasing wealth for them, more importantly about the power that goes with this wealth. The divide over wealth and power is ever increasing. We struggle away doing as we are told working a 9-5 daily paying taxes and vat on everything, we listen to the news and read the papers daily believing everything that is said, Kate and wills this, justin ball bags that, we need to invade this country because of terror threats.
We take it all in and more importantly without questioning.
The constant televised adverts, you must buy this yogurt because Nicole shirtswinger is paid to eat it, you must look skinny and beautiful like so and so because no one likes ugly people.
Take your children to game station to buy gta and cod, it's all about killing drugs etc, all kids love it and play them.
Multiculturalism divide and conquer,immigration. It's a form of control and the government know this, it causes huge debate over housing jobs etc, we are easier to control this way as we are not as one.
Through the news, they have you believe that you should be scared constantly(again a form of control) through imminent terrorist attacks, that in turn allows them to introduce new laws and acts and more police powers eradicating more of our basic freedoms and we let them because we are scared and we don't question it.
If it can happen to poor drummer Lee Rigby on home soil then we must be scared because it could happen to us.
It's like a real life soap opera being played out in real time.
Equilibrium and minority report is around the corner
Your post is typically clichéd. You speak as if this is all fact. You say you're open minded, well I beg to differ; you are quick to only accept convictions of conspiracies and secret Government plots at face value without, it seems, of any need or want of conclusive proof or evidence. You "think" you have the autonomy and ability to think independently and yet accept any "source" from the internet that validates your preconceived conspiracy views based on the views of other conspiracy theorists on bodybuilding websites. Who is brainwashing who?
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Not keen on Mr Bond films tbh.
The rich and powerful or the elite as some might say, their agenda with regards to us peasants is hugely about ever increasing wealth for them, more importantly about the power that goes with this wealth. The divide over wealth and power is ever increasing. We struggle away doing as we are told working a 9-5 daily paying taxes and vat on everything, we listen to the news and read the papers daily believing everything that is said, Kate and wills this, justin ball bags that, we need to invade this country because of terror threats.
We take it all in and more importantly without questioning.
The constant televised adverts, you must buy this yogurt because Nicole shirtswinger is paid to eat it, you must look skinny and beautiful like so and so because no one likes ugly people.
Take your children to game station to buy gta and cod, it's all about killing drugs etc, all kids love it and play them.
Multiculturalism divide and conquer,immigration. It's a form of control and the government know this, it causes huge debate over housing jobs etc, we are easier to control this way as we are not as one.
Through the news, they have you believe that you should be scared constantly(again a form of control) through imminent terrorist attacks, that in turn allows them to introduce new laws and acts and more police powers eradicating more of our basic freedoms and we let them because we are scared and we don't question it.
If it can happen to poor drummer Lee Rigby on home soil then we must be scared because it could happen to us.
It's like a real life soap opera being played out in real time.
Equilibrium and minority report is around the corner

I get it, you feel under powered, under valued, not as successful as you feel you have a right to be

And need to find reasons why your not as rich and powerful as you feel entitled to be

So the whole "cards are stacked against me" by a world conspiracy is a comforting feeling, but in reality a bit of a cop out - deep down I think you know this

Anyway keep on fighting the good fight
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I get it, you feel under powered, under valued, not as successful as you feel you have a right to be

And need to find reasons why your not as rich and powerful as you feel entitled to be

So the whole "cards are stacked against me" by a world conspiracy is a comforting feeling, but in reality a bit of a cop out - deep down I think you know this

Anyway keep on fighting the good fight
Where did all that come from?
I'm not as rich and powerful as I could be but I certainly do ok for myself and my family. I own my own house my own business which touch would is expanding nicely, 4 trucks and 3 cars. My bank balance is in reasonably good shape, being the boss and paying a good wage to 6 men is very satisfying, I am lots of things, underpowered is not one.
If anything the cards are well and truly in my favour.
Being my own boss allows me the time to do what I do, it's something I enjoy.
But thanks for your concern on my life and well being, no need to worry bud
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Don't worry, they wont realy care that your watching goat ****
Genuinely curious, what kind of pr0n do goats watch?
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I'm guessing 'family ****': where the Nanny seduces little Billy? *bleat bleat*

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