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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Can't stand Nico but he is right about Lewis backing him up to Seb! On one hand why not but on the other, it was putting the teams 1-2 at risk!
After all the antics last year however - the moaning git deserves some in return!
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Isn't it all part of being a driver? No team orders so why can't he play the game?

But poor Maldonado lol not once, not twice but thrice!! Looks like his website needs updating again although I'm not sure weather it was his or buttons fault that time. Maldonado did have the racing line that time but like culthard said, they both hit the brakes at the same time
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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I hope Toto Wolfe hands out a decent bo11ocking to Rosberg - "Boo hoo Lewis is driving too slowly, those nasty Ferrari boys are coming to get me"
Has he now got to have permission to overtake Lewis?
What kind of racer is Rosberg?
Best man won.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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On a side note the Chinese marshals were absolutely useless at the basic operation of removing a car from the circuit. Almost as good as their sh1tty products
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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Personally I think rosberg should just shut his gob and get on with it, mardy tw8t
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 06:26 AM
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Don't see the problem, text book performance IMO, get out quick, put some air between himself and the rest of the field, cement the win then go easy on the car for the last few laps, what's happening to those behind is none of his concern even if it is your team mate.

Also nice to let him know who's in control.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 08:02 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/32276274

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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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John I have to ask do you even watch F1 ?
only all you seem to do is post crappy links in random threads about it but you never really know what is actually going on in the sport.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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OK while I not Rosberg's biggest fan I do think he has a bit of a point here. I am not saying Lewis did it deliberately as the team should have spotted it, but it was clear that if Rosberg held station 2s behind Hamilton (which he would have to do so as not to kill his tyres by running in the dirty air of Lewis' car) then the pace Hamilton was going would 'back him up' into Vettel's possible clutches.

You may ask why he didn't cruise up and pass Lewis if he deemed Lewis to be going so slow, but he knew how much faster Lewis could go (he's in the same car after all) and that if he did that then Lewis would simply speed up and leave Nico with compromised tyres.

The real issue is that Rosberg should be complaining to the team not to Lewis as Mercedes were too cautious over tyre wear this race after Malaysia and that is what the real issue was. The fault with his argument about Lewis backing him into Vettel was that Lewis would have preferred Rosberg to finish second than Vettel for the simple reason Vettel is closer to him in the championship standings than Rosberg. Why would he want Vettel to finish second?

Anyway at the end of the day it wasn't exactly a cracker of a race although at least we know that lad Verstappen can pass.

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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
John I have to ask do you even watch F1 ?
only all you seem to do is post crappy links in random threads about it but you never really know what is actually going on in the sport.
O so redbull havn't been moaning about the regs for the past ooo months and months then?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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OK while I not Rosberg's biggest fan I do think he has a bit of a point here. I am not saying Lewis did it deliberately as the team should have spotted it, but it was clear that if Rosberg held station 2s behind Hamilton (which he would have to do so as not to kill his tyres by running in the dirty air of Lewis' car) then the pace Hamilton was going would 'back him up' into Vettel's possible clutches.

You may ask why he didn't cruise up and pass Lewis if he deemed Lewis to be going so slow, but he knew how much faster Lewis could go (he's in the same car after all) and that if he did that then Lewis would simply speed up and leave Nico with compromised tyres.

The real issue is that Rosberg should be complaining to the team not to Lewis as Mercedes were too cautious over tyre wear this race after Malaysia and that is what the real issue was. The fault with his argument about Lewis backing him into Vettel was that Lewis would have preferred Rosberg to finish second than Vettel for the simple reason Vettel is closer to him in the championship standings than Rosberg. Why would he want Vettel to finish second?

Anyway at the end of the day it wasn't exactly a cracker of a race although at least we know that lad Verstappen can pass.
I see your point F1, but if Lewis and Nico are (supposedly) allowed to race, then why don't they get on with it instead of playing games. Either team orders are in place or they're not. Similarly either Nico can beat Lewis or he can't.
If orders exist, then the team are telling porkies and holding station is fine; but don't moan about it - tell the world's media at your first opportunity why you were unable to beat the man ahead.
If they aren't in place then Nico has just wimped out.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I see your point F1, but if Lewis and Nico are (supposedly) allowed to race, then why don't they get on with it instead of playing games. Either team orders are in place or they're not. Similarly either Nico can beat Lewis or he can't.
If orders exist, then the team are telling porkies and holding station is fine; but don't moan about it - tell the world's media at your first opportunity why you were unable to beat the man ahead.
If they aren't in place then Nico has just wimped out.
The point is that this race was the first race for a long time where Mercedes were actually worried about the competition. I don't think there were any team orders, but they knew if they both went hell for leather then the race could well be snatched off them by Ferrari. It was a case of racing Ferrari first and each other second.

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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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I think Nico is entitled to think that Lewis was backing him up, and even speak to management about it. But to speak to the media, so openly, sounds like whining to me from a man that gets paid a lot to race professionally. He needs to stop moaning and drive more quickly.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sprigeteer
I think Nico is entitled to think that Lewis was backing him up, and even speak to management about it. But to speak to the media, so openly, sounds like whining to me from a man that gets paid a lot to race professionally. He needs to stop moaning and drive more quickly.
I agree that an element of his moaning is frustration at not beating Lewis, but it is not without some basis is all I am saying.

I wonder if we will see some on track needle in quali next week?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
The point is that this race was the first race for a long time where Mercedes were actually worried about the competition. I don't think there were any team orders, but they knew if they both went hell for leather then the race could well be snatched off them by Ferrari. It was a case of racing Ferrari first and each other second.
Agreed. But that implies a conscious decision on behalf of one or both drivers to conduct the race in that manner. Having accepted the situation I don't see why Nico goes bleating to the media about how difficult his race was because of Lewis's decision on how to run his own race.
If Nico had pushed Lewis even a little I'm sure he would have taken the hint and picked up the pace - just as he did when it suited him.
Sorry, but I just have him marked out as a devious whinging tart
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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Didn't lewis up the pace as soon as he was asked to?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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Lewis did look a bit shifty tbh when he answered in the interview that he was minding his own race or something similar to that.

I'm happy that Lewis continues to drive to his utmost potential, without any drama of crying and devoting his wins to his ex-files. Much healthier response to life situations. Good lad.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Didn't lewis up the pace as soon as he was asked to?
He did. Not seen the interview but didn't Lewis say somewhere that he was not holding back and was driving to the limit (or words to that effect) but as soon as Nico went in the pits Lewis put the hammer down and start dropping in purple sectors left, right and centre!
I think it's fair to say that the team should of given Lewis the hurry up way before Nico put in the request. We could all see that Lewis had pace in reserve and we could also see that the Ferrari was keeping Nico honest so why did that call not come from the team?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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summit like that but then said they were managing tyres.

tbh its a tad depressing when the car's are being held back by tyres. But if that was the case i think mercedes would be lapping every car in the field
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:51 AM
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He did. Not seen the interview but didn't Lewis say somewhere that he was not holding back and was driving to the limit (or words to that effect) but as soon as Nico went in the pits Lewis put the hammer down and start dropping in purple sectors left, right and centre!
I think it's fair to say that the team should of given Lewis the hurry up way before Nico put in the request. We could all see that Lewis had pace in reserve and we could also see that the Ferrari was keeping Nico honest so why did that call not come from the team?
Which is exactly why I said Rosberg should be complaining to the team and not Lewis!
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Rosberg did say during the race that if he closed up any more he would destroy his tyres.

Was pretty abvious Lewis had plenty more pace in the car if he had needed it, how that would have affected his tyres compared to ferrari we'll never know
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I wonder if we will see some on track needle in quali next week?
Let's hope so - this rivalry is the best thing to happen to F1 in a while. I must admit, that in the back of my mind, I thought the 'whinge' may have been for the benefit of the media to stir up some interest in this duel?
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:06 PM
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Whinge is a good way to describe F1 in recent years.
It would seem all of them whinge in one way or another nowadays.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Whinge is a good way to describe F1 in recent years.
It would seem all of them whinge in one way or another nowadays.
http://m.vidivodo.com/video/hugh-lau...-driver/229976

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:17 PM
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Old May 9, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Spanish grand prix later , if you've had trouble getting some kip.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Spanish grand prix later , if you've had trouble getting some kip.
Yep, I did actually fall asleep for most of it
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Old May 10, 2015 | 07:03 PM
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Never mind the boring F1, did anyone see the Ginetta juniors races on ITV4 today, the 14 year german girl Sophia Floersch, won both races, outstanding car control, made everybody round look very amateur, will be one to watch in the future,
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Old May 10, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Yes I saw that Paul, she was very quick.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 08:07 PM
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I only saw her on the podium , missed the rest
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