Subway ban Bacon and Ham
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The fact you don't eat meat is neither here nor there, it's the underlying issues of this, that affect us all. Hence the huge backlash and sheer disagreement and anger of people everywhere. It is wrong on so many levels.
If you can't see this, then yes ignorance is definatly bliss.
If you can't see this, then yes ignorance is definatly bliss.
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Lol dunno why all the hoo haa.. there is approx 1500 subway stores in uk and ireland.. how many are halal? 200? Do the math lol.. kfc ratios for halal stores are higher.. media is a wonderful thing aint it lol
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Do they sell meat from unwanted puppies? Of course not. Do I think eating meat from any animal is better than eating puppies? No. An animal is an animal. What I do think is that people have the right to make their own decisions. I won't force my views on anyone else and expect the same in return. I have abolitionist vegan friends who would be more than happy to though. That's their business.
You're missing the point of the discussion, which is whether Subway franchisees can choose not to sell certain meats. That's up to them. The discussion isn't about whether Subway should sell any animal products is it?
Ignorance is not bliss, informing yourself and respecting the views of others, however, is.
You're missing the point of the discussion, which is whether Subway franchisees can choose not to sell certain meats. That's up to them. The discussion isn't about whether Subway should sell any animal products is it?
Ignorance is not bliss, informing yourself and respecting the views of others, however, is.
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nearly 10 pages of nonsense, the uk needs muzzers and they are here to stay
who else is going to keep buying the c63 amg's and dont forget theres a new m3 on the way very soon
who else is going to keep buying the c63 amg's and dont forget theres a new m3 on the way very soon
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Is it just me or is anyone else getting really pissed off with things like this? If we go over to some of these countries can we build our own churches? I think not! We have to follow their rules, and granted not everyone does to a degree but i'm really starting to feel like a foreigner in my own country....I wish they would just F**K off sometimes, if you dont like it go back to where you crawled out from!!!
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So called ethics are being used as an argument against one religions treatment of animals, but the bigger picture is that the end result is the same.
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Is it just me or is anyone else getting really pissed off with things like this? If we go over to some of these countries can we build our own churches? I think not! We have to follow their rules, and granted not everyone does to a degree but i'm really starting to feel like a foreigner in my own country....I wish they would just F**K off sometimes, if you dont like it go back to where you crawled out from!!!
In this particular case though, since the story is completely untrue (Subway haven't banned anything, it's individual owners of some stores who've voluntarily gone Halal to make more $$), I'm feeling pretty apathetic about the whole thing.
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Serious question - how long does an animal actually remain conscious once its throat is cut, per Kosher or Halal butchery?
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The vast majority of halal slaughter is done post stunning. I've already stated this earlier but it seems to have been overlooked. I'll also reiterate DJ Dunk's point that worrying about animal slaughter methods and being a meat eater are oxymoronic.
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I was quite surprised that the cow seemed to still be actively reacting over five minutes after the initial cut.
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Someone posted the following YouTube link partway down the Subway facebook page replies. It may be upsetting to some (even though it is not age restricted), so i have not directly linked to it - you will need to copy and paste the URL manually.
I was quite surprised that the cow seemed to still be actively reacting over five minutes after the initial cut.
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I was quite surprised that the cow seemed to still be actively reacting over five minutes after the initial cut.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n7CYc5-PDQ
