Subway ban Bacon and Ham
30 April 2014, 06:59 PM
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Subway ban Bacon and Ham
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...-food/8507373/
Some 185 of the estimated 1,700 Subway stores in Great Britain and Ireland have eliminated ham and bacon from their menus in response to requests from Muslim consumers.
The world's largest sandwich chain said in a statement that after strong interest from its Muslim customers, these locations
have introduced "halal meat" as a replacement, which is prepared under strict Islamic rules.
As Subway has spread geographically across diverse populations, back in 2007 the chain put in place a program "to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new story openings are considered," the company said, in a statement.
There are currently no plans for stores serving halal meat in the U.S. market, a spokesperson says.
Muslims are forbidden from eating any non-halal food and meat from pigs, and Subway said customers can identify those stores selling halal food by the special "All meats are Halal" sign, displayed in the participating restaurants. The signs are on menu panels, nutritional information panels and front windows of the store.
Special meats made with non-pork products -- such as turkey ham -- are being sold instead.
Under Islamic law, pork is forbidden and while other meat can be eaten, it must be sourced, slaughtered and processed according to very strict rules.
Subway said all halal meat served in its branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered.
Some 185 of the estimated 1,700 Subway stores in Great Britain and Ireland have eliminated ham and bacon from their menus in response to requests from Muslim consumers.
The world's largest sandwich chain said in a statement that after strong interest from its Muslim customers, these locations
have introduced "halal meat" as a replacement, which is prepared under strict Islamic rules.
As Subway has spread geographically across diverse populations, back in 2007 the chain put in place a program "to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new story openings are considered," the company said, in a statement.
There are currently no plans for stores serving halal meat in the U.S. market, a spokesperson says.
Muslims are forbidden from eating any non-halal food and meat from pigs, and Subway said customers can identify those stores selling halal food by the special "All meats are Halal" sign, displayed in the participating restaurants. The signs are on menu panels, nutritional information panels and front windows of the store.
Special meats made with non-pork products -- such as turkey ham -- are being sold instead.
Under Islamic law, pork is forbidden and while other meat can be eaten, it must be sourced, slaughtered and processed according to very strict rules.
Subway said all halal meat served in its branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered.
30 April 2014, 07:11 PM
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That's fine but why not just offer the normal meats as well for customers that don't want to eat Halal meat?
Just because Muslims can't eat meat shouldn't mean that non-Muslims have to eat Halal really.
My regular sub doesn't taste right with Bacon & Ham substitutes
Just because Muslims can't eat meat shouldn't mean that non-Muslims have to eat Halal really.
My regular sub doesn't taste right with Bacon & Ham substitutes
30 April 2014, 07:39 PM
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What a load of bollocks! , just because Muslims don't eat pork doesn't mean they have to stop selling it, Muslims don't have to buy it ffs!, sure sell Halal meat along with the ham, what's the problem with that?
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30 April 2014, 08:54 PM
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I think at Wakefield retail park Subway, Nandos and KFC are all Halal now. They claim area dictates it but tbh I thought the area was predominantly non-Muslim and visited mainly by non-Muslims.
I don't understand the push to make UK food establishments across the board Halal when only circa 5% of the population is Muslim. AFAIK Muslims can eat non-Halal by saying a short blessing over the food...
One thing I like about travelling abroad is experiencing and respecting a different culture. Why aren't UK citizens proud of upholding British and or Christian values?
As for the barbaric practice, that's another argument.
I don't understand the push to make UK food establishments across the board Halal when only circa 5% of the population is Muslim. AFAIK Muslims can eat non-Halal by saying a short blessing over the food...
One thing I like about travelling abroad is experiencing and respecting a different culture. Why aren't UK citizens proud of upholding British and or Christian values?
As for the barbaric practice, that's another argument.
30 April 2014, 09:17 PM
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I can remember some years ago at Melton Mowbray livestock market, there with my dad and having to watch the muslims slitting the throats of the sheep and goats they had just bought at the market
Not a pretty sight, the council stopped them doing it eventually, im surprised its not made a comeback, what with all the human / religious rights nowadays.
Not a pretty sight, the council stopped them doing it eventually, im surprised its not made a comeback, what with all the human / religious rights nowadays.
30 April 2014, 09:40 PM
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stunned and throat cut, nice.
It's doesn't bother me how my meat was killed, it's dead that's what matters although I would prefer it killed in a quick as possible way but as I have not control over it I'll still sleep ok tonight..
As far as not getting ham as said above they don't have to eat it.
It's doesn't bother me how my meat was killed, it's dead that's what matters although I would prefer it killed in a quick as possible way but as I have not control over it I'll still sleep ok tonight..
As far as not getting ham as said above they don't have to eat it.
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My cousin got thrown out of a cash an carry one morning after he walked in with a roll and bacon which he bought outside.
It was quite comical as this man came running down the isle shouting GET OUT, GET OUT. We didn't know what the problem was at first until we realised it was the roll my cousin had in his hand.
He wouldn't even come near us.
His reaction was ott and quite funny.
It was quite comical as this man came running down the isle shouting GET OUT, GET OUT. We didn't know what the problem was at first until we realised it was the roll my cousin had in his hand.
He wouldn't even come near us.
His reaction was ott and quite funny.
30 April 2014, 09:58 PM
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My cousin got thrown out of a cash an carry one morning after he walked in with a roll and bacon which he bought outside.
It was quite comical as this man came running down the isle shouting GET OUT, GET OUT. We didn't know what the problem was at first until we realised it was the roll my cousin had in his hand.
He wouldn't even come near us.
His reaction was ott and quite funny.
It was quite comical as this man came running down the isle shouting GET OUT, GET OUT. We didn't know what the problem was at first until we realised it was the roll my cousin had in his hand.
He wouldn't even come near us.
His reaction was ott and quite funny.
You've made that story up haven't you?
30 April 2014, 10:21 PM
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I remember once a old neighbour of mine had a muslim co worker who had never had or seen bacon and they had previously spent a few days feeding him bacon rolls telling him it was something else.
Funny but cruel at the same time.
Funny but cruel at the same time.
30 April 2014, 10:23 PM
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So the animals can be killed in a way considered barbaric by very highly educated people, as long as they taste okay, but because the majority of uneducated people who believe in an imaginary entity won't eat pork - unless it suits them - it's okay to be cruel to these animals that they will eat?
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So the animals can be killed in a way considered barbaric by very highly educated people, as long as they taste okay, but because the majority of uneducated people who believe in an imaginary entity won't eat pork - unless it suits them - it's okay to be cruel to these animals that they will eat?
30 April 2014, 10:56 PM
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SLAUGHTER
Recommendation 61: Council considers that slaughter without pre-stunning is
unacceptable and that the Government should repeal the current exemption.
Government accepts that slaughter without stunning is likely to cause “significant
pain” but will not legislate against this because “these groups will import meat from
other countries”, the implication being that legislation is being produced on the basis
of the lowest common denominator for animal welfare in other countries. The BVA
would urge Government to consider the implications of using this argument for its
convenience at the present time as it may well be inconvenient when implementing
future legislation.
Recommendation 61: Council considers that slaughter without pre-stunning is
unacceptable and that the Government should repeal the current exemption.
Government accepts that slaughter without stunning is likely to cause “significant
pain” but will not legislate against this because “these groups will import meat from
other countries”, the implication being that legislation is being produced on the basis
of the lowest common denominator for animal welfare in other countries. The BVA
would urge Government to consider the implications of using this argument for its
convenience at the present time as it may well be inconvenient when implementing
future legislation.
30 April 2014, 11:00 PM
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Here's the BVA paper. http://www.bva.co.uk/consultations/d..._resp_0704.pdf
I'm sure you can see the risks of having to cater for the lowest common denominator in all circumstances, be it animal welfare, public health, education etc
I'm sure you can see the risks of having to cater for the lowest common denominator in all circumstances, be it animal welfare, public health, education etc
