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Old 02 May 2014, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Opps sorry, I must have you confused with someone else who was in the Army for some reason.

Yes I am side stepping the issue with you, because you just don't get it and never will your not capable, this is evidenced by your many posts and silly scenarios along with the starting of this thread. Your the target market and you lap this kind of drivel up and run with it.

As for comparing a person taking offence to pork being off the menu at a sandwich shop and 400yrs of racist abuse just further proves my point of your total lack of comprehension.

Now i'm trying to be polite to you but your not making it easy.
This is a forum, it's about debate. Without contraversial opinions it would be vey dull and would have died a death a long time ago.
There are 2 sides to every story, this is no different. I understand why certain words are offensive to you, whereas certain words or situations are offensive to me and others.
To add history into the debate then you have to take into account this is England, a country rich in history and a proud nation most of the time. It's therefore not surprising the indigenous are offended when they are told what they can and cannot do, especially given the reasons. The English certainly don't need to be told anything regarding oppression either .

You may be correct in saying that certain changes are highlighted purely to stir up emotion, but then to what agenda?. But again there are 2 sides to propeganda also, these threads seem to have either pro or anti-muslims on them, there doesn't seem to be much inbetween.

I have never and will never be offended by anything anyone says on an internet forum.
Old 02 May 2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I lost my virginity at 12.

Seriously now I would share what I know, but why should I when I get branded an idiot with an over imaginative mind.
Just because something sounds moronicly unbelievable doesn't mean there is no truth in it, it's all about opening your mind and growing a pair.
Presumably you believe a small elite controls the world and holds the financial reins


Yes, every head of the US federal reserves for the last 40 years has been an ex Goldman Sachs banker

Again tell me something I don't know

Well, knowledge is power, use it to make yourself as rich and powerful as you desire

That will be the marker of whether what you believe is true

Come back in 10 years and let us know how you get on

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Old 02 May 2014, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
At the end of the day halal meat has no place here, this is Great Britain not a Muslim country. If you don't like our British foods then **** off.
Get UKIP in power and stop this nonsense.
  • Halal meat does have a place here (at the halal meat shop, tesco's and in my plate)
  • I'm glad you pointed out this is Britain. I genuinely thought i was in Romania all along. Silly Me.
  • This is not a Muslim country (and if you want to be pedantic it is not a Christian country either - Christianity stole the countrys festivals and traditions then 'changed the British way of life' but that's another thread for someone with energy)
  • Lol
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Someone best tell the jews that kosher is not wanted in this country either then
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Originally Posted by Kwik
It's therefore not surprising the indigenous are offended when they are told what they can and cannot do, especially given the reasons.
The irony is that Subway has not actually 'banned' ham/pork. It simply does not offer it at certain stores. I mean, i was miffed when my local Irish shop stopped selling the quality 'brack' and offered the cheap version instead. It didn't make me go on facebook and start slagging them off though.
Old 02 May 2014, 07:44 PM
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Pinky what are the muzzies trying to do tonight.... the samething they try doing every night take over the woorrrllllddddd!!!

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Originally Posted by banny sti
Someone best tell the jews that kosher is not wanted in this country either then
Bro... don't mess with the Jooose man!

Did you know Henry Ford was very anti-jew was very active in his anti-jewness?

Anyway... Halal and Kosher are the most natural methods around. Mother natures animals go straight for the neck for a quick and efficient kill (before the hunter gets a hoof/paw in its face)... the Halal/Kosher method is simply an extension of that. Oh well....
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Originally Posted by Shaid
The irony is that Subway has not actually 'banned' ham/pork. It simply does not offer it at certain stores. I mean, i was miffed when my local Irish shop stopped selling the quality 'brack' and offered the cheap version instead. It didn't make me go on facebook and start slagging them off though.
In the original post from the link provided.

Some 185 of the estimated 1,700 Subway stores in Great Britain and Ireland have eliminated ham and bacon from their menus in response to requests from Muslim consumers.

The world's largest sandwich chain said in a statement that after strong interest from its Muslim customers, these locations
have introduced "halal meat" as a replacement, which is prepared under strict Islamic rules.
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Old 02 May 2014, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
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Old 02 May 2014, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I love stuff like this, it stirs up all the usual folk Facebook, the ones that post mawkish stuff about soldiers, Pictures of Lee Rigby, thinly veiled racism, pictures of the English flag and passionate, yet cretinous diatribes about people going back home, for me the English Flag is ruined now and Lee Rigby has become the unwitting martyr for a lot of utter berks with an agenda, he was murdered by men who happened to be Muslims, converts I hasten to add, and first and foremost they were mentally ill. Actually, the converts seem to be more of a problem, I know those two guys were black but the women who convert tend to be mingers and the blokes gingers, remember that little dick declaring a street a Muslim Patrolled Zone, little ginger moron.

I get it, ok, you dont like/hate Muslims, that is quite a statement, there are billions of them so do you actually hate Muslims or is there a lack of understanding or perhaps a perceived threat, a common enemy in which to unite ? why do people waste so much time on this ?

Even if Muslims were enthusiastic consumers of processed Pork and enjoyed the odd pint or would some other factor be cited, I do, most Muslims manage to practice their religion without any issues, despite some incompatabilities with British life, we seem to manage to enjoy curries on a regular basis and I have never heard anyone wailing due to not being able to get a Pork Biryani ?
This ...^^^^^
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Subway can keep their ****ty sandwiches, still would not eat from there regardless of halal meat or not
Old 02 May 2014, 08:05 PM
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Kwick, this HAS to be you mate, or its somebody on this thread!
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Old 02 May 2014, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Bro... don't mess with the Jooose man!

Did you know Henry Ford was very anti-jew was very active in his anti-jewness?

Anyway... Halal and Kosher are the most natural methods around. Mother natures animals go straight for the neck for a quick and efficient kill (before the hunter gets a hoof/paw in its face)... the Halal/Kosher method is simply an extension of that. Oh well....
Don't start to compare us to animals in the wild,although sometimes appropriate its not this time. I use to be a dairy farmer and have been on the front line of food/meat production (dairy farms have cattle for beef as well as pigs for own food sometimes). I also have friends who have chicken/sheep farms. We are capable of ending animals lives with no pain. I have beaten round the bush to much,this practice of halal and kosher is SICK people who eat this meat that has been killed in such a way that the animal has suffered is SICK. They DISGUST me and anybody who sells this meat, and to say that the owners are just making money makes me that bit more angry. I would rather be poor than condone this form of animal cruelty.
Old 02 May 2014, 08:15 PM
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No surrender is a term used by England fan's singing "No surrender to the IRA". Not really anything to do with this thread. Or "Are" culture.
Old 02 May 2014, 08:18 PM
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Just to add to my other post anybody that is OK with this sick s**t should be made to stand in front of one of these animals and watch them die slowly while they choke on there own blood.
Old 02 May 2014, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
these threads seem to have either pro or anti-muslims on them, there doesn't seem to be much inbetween.
Totally disagree. What I see on these types of threads are anti-muslims, muslims that feel prepared to come along and speak from their perspective and the rest of us, that are simply not 'anti-muslim'.

I am not pro or anti, I am neutral if you like. I can't dislike or like somebody just because of what religion they practise or what race they are from or background they have. I base my opinions of people on what they say and do. Simples.


Originally Posted by banny sti
Subway can keep their ****ty sandwiches, still would not eat from there regardless of halal meat or not
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Totally disagree. What I see on these types of threads are anti-muslims, muslims that feel prepared to come along and speak from their perspective and the rest of us, that are simply not 'anti-muslim'.

I am not pro or anti, I am neutral if you like. I can't dislike or like somebody just because of what religion they practise or what race they are from or background they have. I base my opinions of people on what they say and do. Simples.
Do you think by what I write that I am anti-muslim Lisa. Again I won't be offended by what you say.
Old 02 May 2014, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Totally disagree. What I see on these types of threads are anti-muslims, muslims that feel prepared to come along and speak from their perspective and the rest of us, that are simply not 'anti-muslim'.

I am not pro or anti, I am neutral if you like. I can't dislike or like somebody just because of what religion they practise or what race they are from or background they have. I base my opinions of people on what they say and do. Simples.




Me too. Not pro or anti, just don't see the big deal.
Subway says in some shops we are changing our meat supplier, I say, does it taste any different. They say no, I say fine....

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Old 02 May 2014, 08:35 PM
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It's a simple question of economics, you cater for your main customer base. I can't believe how excited some folk get over a less than mediocre sandwich chain. If you feel so strongly then withhold your custom.
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Originally Posted by paulr
Me too. Not pro or anti, just don't see the big deal.
Subway says in some shops we are changing our meat supplier, I say, does it taste any different. They say no, I say fine....

End of.
I say its condoning animal cruelty. You say........................
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Just to add to my other post anybody that is OK with this sick s**t should be made to stand in front of one of these animals and watch them die slowly while they choke on there own blood.
When you're killing an animal for consumption, it's a bit late to consider it's feelings and sensitivities. Don't stand preaching about how wonderfully compassionate farmers are when a lot of evidence suggests the contrary.
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Having some grilled kebabs made from hal-AL meat, they are sooooooo delicious yum yum
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Why is it cruel. My understanding is that the animal is stunned prior to having its throat slit just as non halal meat would be.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Why is it cruel. My understanding is that the animal is stunned prior to having its throat slit just as non halal meat would be.
Ignorance is bliss
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Ignorance is bliss
Is that what you say to the cattle after they've outlived their usefulness as dairy producers.
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oh I didnt know your birds brothers mrs's uncle's cousins twice removed knew a guy that knew guy and he saw a chicken being killed in a halal way.
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Originally Posted by Maz
Is that what you say to the cattle after they've outlived their usefulness as dairy producers.
posted at the same time.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Why is it cruel. My understanding is that the animal is stunned prior to having its throat slit just as non halal meat would be.
According to Subway, all the animals are stunned before killing. They still get a halal certificate. There is halal, and strict halal. This is according to Subway.


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