Subway ban Bacon and Ham
01 May 2014, 12:38 AM
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They should have dropped bacon rolls on the Taliban, it would have been far more effective.
01 May 2014, 05:55 AM
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I went to subway once.
Just seems to me like they are catering for the local demographic.
You should try macdonalds in India, there's no beef only chicken.
Muslims can eat whatever is available when necessary, it's only the nut jobs on either side that make a big deal about it and yes they can bless any food halal or not.
I'm pretty sure all the burger/chicken chains are using Halal meat all over the world and have been doing so for quite some time, subway are just jumping on the band wagon.
Just seems to me like they are catering for the local demographic.
You should try macdonalds in India, there's no beef only chicken.
Muslims can eat whatever is available when necessary, it's only the nut jobs on either side that make a big deal about it and yes they can bless any food halal or not.
I'm pretty sure all the burger/chicken chains are using Halal meat all over the world and have been doing so for quite some time, subway are just jumping on the band wagon.
01 May 2014, 08:27 AM
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01 May 2014, 11:36 AM
#34
I went to subway once.
Just seems to me like they are catering for the local demographic.
You should try macdonalds in India, there's no beef only chicken.
Muslims can eat whatever is available when necessary, it's only the nut jobs on either side that make a big deal about it and yes they can bless any food halal or not.
I'm pretty sure all the burger/chicken chains are using Halal meat all over the world and have been doing so for quite some time, subway are just jumping on the band wagon.
Just seems to me like they are catering for the local demographic.
You should try macdonalds in India, there's no beef only chicken.
Muslims can eat whatever is available when necessary, it's only the nut jobs on either side that make a big deal about it and yes they can bless any food halal or not.
I'm pretty sure all the burger/chicken chains are using Halal meat all over the world and have been doing so for quite some time, subway are just jumping on the band wagon.
I'm vegetarian but don't go in demanding that they stop selling meat just for me
01 May 2014, 12:00 PM
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The worlds gone mad, religion this religion that, what's happening to our once great country.
Britain is no longer Britain, it's all multiculturalism, other countries religions and beliefs being force fed on us Britons in the form of food and everything else that goes with it.
Britain is for the British people, if you don't like how we live what we eat, our religious beliefs then I got an idea for you all...........get the f#*k out!!!!
Britain is no longer Britain, it's all multiculturalism, other countries religions and beliefs being force fed on us Britons in the form of food and everything else that goes with it.
Britain is for the British people, if you don't like how we live what we eat, our religious beliefs then I got an idea for you all...........get the f#*k out!!!!
01 May 2014, 12:07 PM
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I'm not sure if a Muslim can eat food sacrificed to another idol (kosher) as it may come under shirk. Slightly OT but AFAIK if a Muslim idolises luck, ghosts, magic or even a popstar etc etc they will burn in the hellfire due to acknowledging an entity with powers/appeal a kin to Allah, polytheism/idolatry on a smaller scale. It just shows how far apart religions can take people, it's hard to fully understand a religion and what aspects understood incorrectly cause offense, like most religions though most of those who practice pick and choose what aspects to follow...
What scares me is that Halal has been just about successfully implemented in the UK across the board and with 40% of Muslims currently wanting Sharia (ICM opinion poll) will this be the next element to be implemented 'through the back door' so to speak.
Those not familiar with Sharia.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
What scares me is that Halal has been just about successfully implemented in the UK across the board and with 40% of Muslims currently wanting Sharia (ICM opinion poll) will this be the next element to be implemented 'through the back door' so to speak.
Those not familiar with Sharia.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
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01 May 2014, 12:14 PM
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Our great leaders in power with their open-borders approach to life has dismantled the fabric of our once great successful country.
Free market economy, or
forced multiculturalism?
Divide and conquer............read up on it!
Free market economy, or
forced multiculturalism?
Divide and conquer............read up on it!
01 May 2014, 12:39 PM
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Yep, I agree.... Just the usual morons being ever so offended over 'muslamics taking over their country' I think these folk are the very real definition of pathetic. If all it takes is for a private company to stop serving ham/bacon in a percentage of their stores where it probably was never in huge demand anyway (basically tailoring their menu for the local market so that they can make more money and less waste - bit I wouldn't expect a 'patriot' to understand that anyway) for said people to feel the county being taken over then maybe.... I can't be bothered but hey opportunities like this are golden are the morons are jumping up and down this clearly identifying themselves.
Makes it easier for normal folk to choose who to avoid.
Lots of typos but hey English was not my first language and i've mastered it better than many patriots so there....
Makes it easier for normal folk to choose who to avoid.
Lots of typos but hey English was not my first language and i've mastered it better than many patriots so there....
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01 May 2014, 12:49 PM
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I'm not sure if a Muslim can eat food sacrificed to another idol (kosher) as it may come under shirk. Slightly OT but AFAIK if a Muslim idolises luck, ghosts, magic or even a popstar etc etc they will burn in the hellfire due to acknowledging an entity with powers/appeal a kin to Allah, polytheism/idolatry on a smaller scale. It just shows how far apart religions can take people, it's hard to fully understand a religion and what aspects understood incorrectly cause offense, like most religions though most of those who practice pick and choose what aspects to follow...
What scares me is that Halal has been just about successfully implemented in the UK across the board and with 40% of Muslims currently wanting Sharia (ICM opinion poll) will this be the next element to be implemented 'through the back door' so to speak.
Those not familiar with Sharia.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
What scares me is that Halal has been just about successfully implemented in the UK across the board and with 40% of Muslims currently wanting Sharia (ICM opinion poll) will this be the next element to be implemented 'through the back door' so to speak.
Those not familiar with Sharia.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Last edited by Shaid; 01 May 2014 at 12:50 PM.
01 May 2014, 12:57 PM
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Bull**** to you maybe, but a serious matter to me and many many others.
Multiculturalism doesn't and will never work.
The powers that be know this that's why the borders are always open, it's all about unrest and control for the masses.
Multiculturalism doesn't and will never work.
The powers that be know this that's why the borders are always open, it's all about unrest and control for the masses.
01 May 2014, 01:09 PM
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It's all about power and control by the government
Who happen to be using Muslamics to pee off the population
So the population want unrest with the Muslamics whilst the government take control...
Yep .... Perfect logic here
If I ever meet you. I will personally buy you a cookie (not from Subway)
01 May 2014, 01:33 PM
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This is just a business decision, I don't know why people feel a need to have a go at Muslims just because some may have shown there is a demand for a different menu.
I very much doubt a load of Muslims have been taking to the streets, kicking up a stink demanding stores ban pig based food and serve Halal. It's more likely been a case of the stores that have implemented these changes have done so purely because they believe they will make more money as a result.
Out of curiosity, (a question for the Muslims) could Subway have still sold ham/bacon etc if it were prepared/stored in a separate area to the Halal meats?
I very much doubt a load of Muslims have been taking to the streets, kicking up a stink demanding stores ban pig based food and serve Halal. It's more likely been a case of the stores that have implemented these changes have done so purely because they believe they will make more money as a result.
Out of curiosity, (a question for the Muslims) could Subway have still sold ham/bacon etc if it were prepared/stored in a separate area to the Halal meats?
01 May 2014, 01:48 PM
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There is a chap I manage at work who gets offended if someone eats a bacon sandwich near him (so we try and be respectful of that, although we haven't stopped eating bacon sarnies, each to their own etc.)
01 May 2014, 02:11 PM
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The Muslims must of asked for this,subway must have seen the demand from some where. The thing is they will of seen other demands from vegetairans etc but IMO feel they would have had more pressure from the Muslims. They can't cater for everyone and need to find the right market but one that comes with the higher PC . I just hope that in the future you will be able to step of a plane and be able to tell the difference. I think diversity can be a good thing but I also like to experience different cultures and would like people to be able to come to this country and experience are culture.
01 May 2014, 02:37 PM
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Cant believe people actually believe this bs.
I know somebody that owns three subway franchises, its up to the franchisee as to what is sold in there and what isnt.
I know somebody that owns three subway franchises, its up to the franchisee as to what is sold in there and what isnt.
I see what you did there... very good
01 May 2014, 03:43 PM
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So let me get this right.....
It's all about power and control by the government
Who happen to be using Muslamics to pee off the population
So the population want unrest with the Muslamics whilst the government take control...
Yep .... Perfect logic here
If I ever meet you. I will personally buy you a cookie (not from Subway)
It's all about power and control by the government
Who happen to be using Muslamics to pee off the population
So the population want unrest with the Muslamics whilst the government take control...
Yep .... Perfect logic here
If I ever meet you. I will personally buy you a cookie (not from Subway)
Not a cookie fan tbh, prefer rich tea with my cuppa.
Do some homework on divide and conquer.
01 May 2014, 03:47 PM
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The Muslims must of asked for this,subway must have seen the demand from some where. The thing is they will of seen other demands from vegetairans etc but IMO feel they would have had more pressure from the Muslims. They can't cater for everyone and need to find the right market but one that comes with the higher PC . I just hope that in the future you will be able to step of a plane and be able to tell the difference. I think diversity can be a good thing but I also like to experience different cultures and would like people to be able to come to this country and experience are culture.
01 May 2014, 04:01 PM
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Yep, I agree.... Just the usual morons being ever so offended over 'muslamics taking over their country' I think these folk are the very real definition of pathetic. If all it takes is for a private company to stop serving ham/bacon in a percentage of their stores where it probably was never in huge demand anyway (basically tailoring their menu for the local market so that they can make more money and less waste - bit I wouldn't expect a 'patriot' to understand that anyway) for said people to feel the county being taken over then maybe.... I can't be bothered but hey opportunities like this are golden are the morons are jumping up and down this clearly identifying themselves.
Makes it easier for normal folk to choose who to avoid.
Lots of typos but hey English was not my first language and i've mastered it better than many patriots so there....
Makes it easier for normal folk to choose who to avoid.
Lots of typos but hey English was not my first language and i've mastered it better than many patriots so there....
It Is easier to rule over a divided, confused and squabbling population because while we are too busy fighting amongst each other.
You have hardly anyone paying attention to your corrupt and self enriching policies.
As well as our decaying national Infrastructure, quality of life and erosion of rights. Britain keeps marching to It's death and hardly anyone seems
to notice or care.
With numerous cultures come multiple languages, Linguistic chaos equals unending tension. The writer Kant said, "The two great dividers are religion and language."
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01 May 2014, 04:10 PM
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I think swift globalisation with mass immigration encouraged by world leaders (from viewing how Westernised cultures could evolve to being) was 1 last desperate bid to dilute cultures and war causing factors. All it did was move cultures around and cause divides.
With the growing influx of Islamists, radicalisation in prisons and at some Mosques It'd be interesting to hear from Atheists of a Muslim background if they feel a growing pressure to start practicing in some shape or form.
Do moderates or Asian atheists feel Islamification of the UK (Halal/Operation Trojan Horse/Sharia courts/Illegal Sharia Controlled zones/Islamic loans etc) is real or just right-wing propaganda? Why do Muslims feel BNP, EDL, Britain First, Liberty GB amongst many more political parties/pressure groups are mainly targeting them over other religions/cultures/ideologies?
With the growing influx of Islamists, radicalisation in prisons and at some Mosques It'd be interesting to hear from Atheists of a Muslim background if they feel a growing pressure to start practicing in some shape or form.
Do moderates or Asian atheists feel Islamification of the UK (Halal/Operation Trojan Horse/Sharia courts/Illegal Sharia Controlled zones/Islamic loans etc) is real or just right-wing propaganda? Why do Muslims feel BNP, EDL, Britain First, Liberty GB amongst many more political parties/pressure groups are mainly targeting them over other religions/cultures/ideologies?
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01 May 2014, 04:12 PM
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