ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

I can't see how voting for any party let alone UKIP, yeah they can fix a few holes here and there but overall the situation we are in now is the effect of factors that were badly dealt with constantly over the past 20odd years.

The damage is done. This country is a cat-b write off. The best we can ever do now is salvage bits off it.

warrenm2

Been having sporadic internet access so only just seen this. The "talking about immigration is racist" is so 2010, things have moved on big time since then, especially with Labour apologising for messing it up. We do need immigration - of good quality people though. What we have at the moment is no sorting of wheat from chaff. And that is what UKIP propose. Hardly controversial. The issue of native people not working is a separate issue to do with benefits.

As for how things are cat b write off now, things can be turned round in two sessions of Gvmt, look at the turn around after the Labour disaster of the 70s, read up on New Zealand in the mid 80s, it is possible with the right ideas.

Finally, as for UKIP being composed of BNP'ers - that is so wrong its almost actionable. UKIP are the only party that ban ex-BNP members from joining, which is more than can be said for Labour. Suggesting otherwise is a flimsy, transparent and pathetic smear. What are you so afraid of?

I shall be voting UKIP and am proud of it, the other 3 parties have a track record of letting this country down, its time to change things for the better with UKIP. As Pete says, people will be surprised at the amount of votes they get at the European AND LOCAL elections next month

Martin2005

What are UKIP planning to do with the millions of EU workers who are currently here?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

You mean the ones YOUR lot let in en-masse as some sort of sociological experiment and to shove it to the right wingers?

Nothing...........to late for that, but no more.

Martin2005

Don't be daft

Carnut

You think that one of the most up and coming and wealthy country's in the world doesn't have problems keeping out foreign johnies . The city's are full of Asians and in suits not overalls ready for a days mining. The point I am making is that they have strict broader control but still manage to have diversity which benefits the country. And the fact that it does have a mining boom just proves my point that there able to trade successfully with other country's (they sell what they mine abroad ) while sill maintaining strict boarders. All country's have to trade in and out to be successful and UKIP no this but believe it can still be done with good broader control.

dpb

A few grammatical errors there , if you don't mind me saying

Ukip want to keep out rest of Europe, afaik. Trouble is we will then have to pull back all our own on the continent.

Australia is growing wealthy on flogging ore to China , I don't know how many jobs going for the indigenous though

Carnut

UKIP don't want to keep out rest of Europe, they just want to keep the s**t out .

And what's your point about Australia got to do with what I said . I am just saying that they are a growing and wealthy country that manage there boarders well. And Australia don't just trade ore,like many if not all they trade and import everything from food/clothing /cars/electronics and so on and have no need to buddy up with other countrys. It maybe to late but wouldn't it be good if we had our own back bone industry like I don't know manufacturing.

Dingdongler

Will you vote for UKIP in the general election?

Spudgun GTR

voting ukip, now and at the general election

c_maguire

At near 46 years old, I find the thought of voting has never been as disheartening as now.
I may well vote UKIP this May to give the rest the finger, rather than for their policies.
As for the General Election, how disheartening can it get? Historically I have voted Conservative, but this isn't any Conservative party I recognise. Probably hasn't been since 1996. Tempting as it is not to vote at all, they'll more than likely get my vote (with gritted teeth) purely because it'll be one more vote to stop Labour.
Apart from UKIP they're all way too touchy-feely for my taste but UKIP, much like the Greens, are somewhat difficult to take seriously when you look closely.
There are a lot of goldfish around, so what worries me most is the prospect of another Labour government.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

This is my way of thinking too currently.

I don't 100% agree with any party but my ideals fall mostly on that of the Conservatives, so I'll vote for them.

Again, anything, absolutely anything to stop another Labour government getting into power. Jesus ******* Christ on a bike!

Dr Hu

All 3 main parties are now flinging as much **** as possible on anyone UKIP in an attempt to damage/smear the party - thing is the more **** they fling, the more it shows them up to be running scared of the 'man on the street's views - even the commentators are saying that UKIP are shrugging off the **** deluge, and coming out smelling ever stronger of roses. All that fertiliser just makes them grow stronger.

The political parties have majorly lost touch with the average joe...

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

What? They didn't let them in?

In wasn't a sociological experiment?

It wasn't to "stick it to the right wing?"

All three from ex-Labour ministers/spin doctors.

I'm sorry Martin, "No it isn't, No it doesn't, No it won't" arguing cuts no ice.

warrenm2

I'll be voting UKIP for as long as we are in the EU and have no other party who want to get us out. I shall be voting UKIP as long as they are a small Gvmt, libertarian party. I shall be voting UKIP for as long as they show common sense on immigration, HS2 and energy policies for example.

So yes, I'll be voting UKIP at every opportunity for the foreseeable future

Carnut

+1

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

+2.......my eldest son will too.

paulr

I'd vote UKIP to stick two fingers up to everyone else. However, god forbid if any of thier policies got implemented.

DYK

The way I see it,I'm sick of hearing con/lab and cleggy boy going on and on,they don't give a straight answer to a question,they try to skip around it,and they have had more than enough chances over the years,its not as if they done a brilliant job over recent years is it.
So,if you don't change the way you vote,then maybe nothing will ever change.

Mungo

No, but large multi-national (non-British) companies (Nissan, Honda, Siemens, etc.) would choose not to locate their manufacturing in Britain if Britain was not part of the EU.

Mungo

I hope you saw the front page article in yesterday's Times - repeating above message that UKIP's core are ex-Labour, as Miliband (and Blair before him I guess) have made the party too middle-class.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I see the Grauniad is today announcing that the three major parties are to launch a smear campaign aimed at branding UKIP racist


But they aren't worried?

And why don't they come out and debate the issues properly instead of going for a smear campaign?


Even (the odious) Jacquie smith has refused to support the campaign, reportedly saying, "Have we learned nothing from bigot-gate?"

boomer

Please provide a link to this "confirmed position" of the above manufacturers.

For example, it seems strange that even though Nissan's UK plant is one of the most productive car plants in Europe, they would want to move out?

mb

ScoobyWon't

There's speculation that Farage could stand in the Newark by-election now that Patrick Mercer has quit.

If he won the seat and became an MP, it would really kick the Tories where it hurts.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...cer-quits.html

jonc

The UK economy is slowly recovering with 5 consecutive periods of GDP growth and a 0.8% growth in this year's first quarter. Voting UKIP will be catastrophic for the UK economy; UKIP have no economic policy to speak of and if Labour got back in to power with Milliband/***** at the helm it'll definitely be game over. Vote UKIP at the European election by all means, I probably will do too just to shake up the political establishment. But come the 2015 General Election I'd want continued economic stability and growth for the UK and won't jepordise that just for the sake of a protest vote. I just don't think the economy is robust enough yet for a major political upheaval.

SJ_Skyline

Just don't vote for the Green mentalists!

Martin2005

I see he bottled it

c_maguire

Nowadays the media spend too much time making non-events into events for viewing/reading figures. Remember Crick (a complete tool), I believe, pestering UKIP regarding the fact there were no black people on one of their posters, suggesting this demonstrated they are racist in some way?
A completely ridiculous question, but one when posed publicly that requires an answer.

If you were in Farage's position would you have stood for the Newark seat?
And if not would that be because you 'bottled it'.

To me it looks like little to gain and much to lose. Certainly the case by the time the media had finished with it, had he lost.

Martin2005

UKIP's entire political strategy based around making 'non-events' into events, or at least grossly distorting the truth.

Too many people on here are affording UKIP the kind of 'pass' they'd never give to the other parties

Farage won't stand because he knows he'll lose - no more to it than that

c_maguire

A seat with a 16000 majority.
He'd have to be retarded to stand, so your comment is of no substance. Were we dealing with a marginal then the circumstances would be entirely different.
UKIP will probably put up a candidate but you sacrifice pawns, not the Queen, for a play like that.