Pagid Blue pads
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Pagid Blue pads
Folks, i have got new Pagid Blue's on new OEM discs in my OEM front 4 pots in my 03 WRX, although i am still bedding them in, i am getting some squealing under light braking.
Is this 'normal' for this pad? There is a load of copper grease around but i cannot make out if they have any anti-squeel shims in or not.
Did the OEM pads have this shims or are the shims a separate buy?
It only happens when i am say stuck in traffic and only need to dab the brakes to stop without needing the full pedal force to stop. Once moving and after a few 'proper' stops it tends to disappear.
Not that i mind too much, i am just glad be rid of my bloody stoptechs, LOL.
For now i am nicely impressed with the braking force, but will say more when i start to bloody hammer em! Ha.
Is this 'normal' for this pad? There is a load of copper grease around but i cannot make out if they have any anti-squeel shims in or not.
Did the OEM pads have this shims or are the shims a separate buy?
It only happens when i am say stuck in traffic and only need to dab the brakes to stop without needing the full pedal force to stop. Once moving and after a few 'proper' stops it tends to disappear.
Not that i mind too much, i am just glad be rid of my bloody stoptechs, LOL.
For now i am nicely impressed with the braking force, but will say more when i start to bloody hammer em! Ha.
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Got PBs in AP 6 pots front no squeal. Also got PBs in rear gold Brembos, these do squeal a bit. Higher Friction pads do tend to squeal although this may depend a bit on particular caliper. All brake pads are a compromise, you want better stoping then you lose out elsewhere.
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'Still bedding them in?'
Blues only take about 20 minutes to bed in properly, its not like they are silly normal road pads that need gentle driving for 500 miles.
Mine only squeal at low speeds if I've not been using the brakes properly for a while (town driving at low speed).
Bedding in procedure below.
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Blues only take about 20 minutes to bed in properly, its not like they are silly normal road pads that need gentle driving for 500 miles.
Mine only squeal at low speeds if I've not been using the brakes properly for a while (town driving at low speed).
Bedding in procedure below.
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Ta DaveW. I went out today for a small blast and was impressed, i only hope that 'bite' stays there when i start standing on em! Hahaha.
As for the squeal, mine is exactly as per your description. Which explains the noise having been in my worst traffic jam for years then! lol.
As for the squeal, mine is exactly as per your description. Which explains the noise having been in my worst traffic jam for years then! lol.
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main thing to bear in mind if you carry out that procedure is to allow your "bedding" to be followed by a cooling run of around 10-15mins so that all components return to normal temps naturally
do NOT stop immediately after or disc/heat problems will most likely occur, and don't perform with brand new discs!!
also do NOT use this procedure for RS4.2.1 Black.............
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do NOT stop immediately after or disc/heat problems will most likely occur, and don't perform with brand new discs!!
also do NOT use this procedure for RS4.2.1 Black.............
alyn
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To be honest, i wont be using this procedure. I do have new discs as they were fitted with the pads the other week.
I use my car for road and slow road at that! LOL.
Ahhh, how i love Nottinghams cameras.
Ere Alyn, you wanna buy my crappy stoptech calipers off me?
They just need some TLC on the caliper paint!
I use my car for road and slow road at that! LOL.
Ahhh, how i love Nottinghams cameras.
Ere Alyn, you wanna buy my crappy stoptech calipers off me?
They just need some TLC on the caliper paint!
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Alyn,
What would be your advice with new discs and RS42 or 29 pads. I'm comfortable with the somewhat brutal procedure for new pads alone but don't see how this is compatible with the need to be gentle with new discs.
Is it possible to do a gentle few hundred miles settling the discs down and then proceed to bed the pads. Would this cause any glazing problems or other ills.
Thanks, Diccy.
What would be your advice with new discs and RS42 or 29 pads. I'm comfortable with the somewhat brutal procedure for new pads alone but don't see how this is compatible with the need to be gentle with new discs.
Is it possible to do a gentle few hundred miles settling the discs down and then proceed to bed the pads. Would this cause any glazing problems or other ills.
Thanks, Diccy.
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with new discs simply use reasonably for the first 100-150miles and then gradually increase their temps, etc.........you can then carry out the pad bedding if required, but you should have no issues at all with glazing
only exception is if you are using PF dicss and matching pads in which case because of their final heat treatment process you bed them both aggressively out of the box!!
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only exception is if you are using PF dicss and matching pads in which case because of their final heat treatment process you bed them both aggressively out of the box!!
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Thanks Alyn,
When mine need sorting I think I will go for the PF discs (£££) for my AP bells with RS29 so no issues with aggressive bedding in. Still got a year or so on my RS42s so will be in touch when the time comes.
Cheers, Diccy.
When mine need sorting I think I will go for the PF discs (£££) for my AP bells with RS29 so no issues with aggressive bedding in. Still got a year or so on my RS42s so will be in touch when the time comes.
Cheers, Diccy.
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