1st time buying rubber for scoob! Advice needed.
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1st time buying rubber for scoob! Advice needed.
Im looking for 4 new tyres for my classic. I've got 18" alloys and the tyres size is 215/35/18. Ive just checked out camskill and they doing a deal on toyo T1S at £292 for 4. I was also looking at yokohama parada 2's for £380.
Can anyone tell me if they are any good?
Anyone had either of these tyres? what they like?
I'm willing to pay for performance but not over the hill prices
Thanks in advance guys.
ps.. I drive fairly safely so wont need trackday tyres
Can anyone tell me if they are any good?
Anyone had either of these tyres? what they like?
I'm willing to pay for performance but not over the hill prices
Thanks in advance guys.
ps.. I drive fairly safely so wont need trackday tyres
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Why put 18"'s on a classic ?
Seriously tho' T1S seem a bit "soft" but I kill all my tyres due to lack of ability....
Camskill are cheap take your pick !
Seriously tho' T1S seem a bit "soft" but I kill all my tyres due to lack of ability....
Camskill are cheap take your pick !
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I have a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 GDS3's but I remain unconvinced by the grip they offer when there's a lot of surface water.
The tyres were still only a few months old, yet when I started to slow down coming up to a junction last year in very wet conditions, although the brakes did their job, I ended up aquaplaning about 30 feet down a dual carriageway because the tyres didn't seem able to disperse the water quick enough.
Luckily I didn't hit anything but I haven't trusted them since in the wet.
Great in the dry, questionable in the wet I'd say...
The tyres were still only a few months old, yet when I started to slow down coming up to a junction last year in very wet conditions, although the brakes did their job, I ended up aquaplaning about 30 feet down a dual carriageway because the tyres didn't seem able to disperse the water quick enough.
Luckily I didn't hit anything but I haven't trusted them since in the wet.
Great in the dry, questionable in the wet I'd say...
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my m8 has got yoko paradas on his evo and they are really good in all weather, ive had the toyo s's on one of our cars, gripped really well, but as all ready said the side wall's are really weak.
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Never had a problem with Eagles, neither the old GSD2 or the current GSD3. I had utmost confidence in them in the wet, especially through standing water.
Saying that, for a change I tried Michelin Pilot Exaltos on my v4 wagon (205/50/16) and they're superb in the dry, but perhaps not so great as the Eagles were in the wet.
Saying that, for a change I tried Michelin Pilot Exaltos on my v4 wagon (205/50/16) and they're superb in the dry, but perhaps not so great as the Eagles were in the wet.
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I point you to this post
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...nta-scoob.html
The tyres that seem to regular come out top for the impreza
Are these two -
Goodyear Eagle F1s (quality issues though last year!)
Toyos T1s
Vredestein Ultra Sessanta are getting rave reviews.
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Other people have a good experince Bridgestones RE etc
Stay away from ´´Pirelli Hedgefinders´´
But two named above over years on these threads are the ones that consistanly come out a big favourites.
Its down to what pressures you run and what you like.
Personaly I am a fan of Goodyear F1s -but boy do they wear quickly if you drive hard - people complain that they dont stand up well on tracks - but for the road personaly I think they are superb.
Vredestein Ultra Sessanta are supposed to be even better!
(perhaps you can be a guinepig and try them out and report back )
And as mentioned Toyo is the other firm favourite.
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...nta-scoob.html
The tyres that seem to regular come out top for the impreza
Are these two -
Goodyear Eagle F1s (quality issues though last year!)
Toyos T1s
Vredestein Ultra Sessanta are getting rave reviews.
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Other people have a good experince Bridgestones RE etc
Stay away from ´´Pirelli Hedgefinders´´
But two named above over years on these threads are the ones that consistanly come out a big favourites.
Its down to what pressures you run and what you like.
Personaly I am a fan of Goodyear F1s -but boy do they wear quickly if you drive hard - people complain that they dont stand up well on tracks - but for the road personaly I think they are superb.
Vredestein Ultra Sessanta are supposed to be even better!
(perhaps you can be a guinepig and try them out and report back )
And as mentioned Toyo is the other firm favourite.
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thanks for the replies guys. To answer & ask a few questions at once,
I bought the car with 18's on it...Are they no good? should i have 17's?
I run my tyre pressures at 32 all round. Is this ok? as my local tyre garage recommended.
Sounds sad but I like the look of the tread on the parada's (look cool) and I had a set of yokohamas years ago on my 1.2 corsa and they were great (if not a little soft so get less miles from them) but i might be a guinea pig with those Vredesteins.
As always I start with a budget in mind say £350. then as time ticks on and I get used to the idea I start to think
OOOH! But for a little bit more I can get this,
so the budget goes up....then up, then up
Thanks guys....for making my decision harder
I bought the car with 18's on it...Are they no good? should i have 17's?
I run my tyre pressures at 32 all round. Is this ok? as my local tyre garage recommended.
Sounds sad but I like the look of the tread on the parada's (look cool) and I had a set of yokohamas years ago on my 1.2 corsa and they were great (if not a little soft so get less miles from them) but i might be a guinea pig with those Vredesteins.
As always I start with a budget in mind say £350. then as time ticks on and I get used to the idea I start to think
OOOH! But for a little bit more I can get this,
so the budget goes up....then up, then up
Thanks guys....for making my decision harder
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18" look cool for cruising the mean city streets.....
But back road blasting is better done on 17"s, which look good and the taller tyres have a bit more give over bumps and ridges...
Don't worry just spend !
LOL DunxC
But back road blasting is better done on 17"s, which look good and the taller tyres have a bit more give over bumps and ridges...
Don't worry just spend !
LOL DunxC
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I agree 18's look cool but they're a fricken nightmare over the bumps round my way even on straight roads you can feel everything no forgiveness. It's sitting on potenza coilovers so its pretty low too.
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I'm running Vredestien Sessantas and they ARE a fantastic tyre for all the reason given in the link about. HOWEVER, having covered just 10,000 miles, the fronts are nearly worn down and the backs aren't far behind
I do enjoy a bit of spirited driving but a lot of these miles have been steady motorway stuff. I'm going to try the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics next as 10K miles per set of tyres is a bit extravagant!!
I do enjoy a bit of spirited driving but a lot of these miles have been steady motorway stuff. I'm going to try the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics next as 10K miles per set of tyres is a bit extravagant!!
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17s are definately better for classics in terms of performance
But yes the 18s do look far better!
18s perform better on new age.
Pressures
Run less at the back more at the front - as a rule.
36 front 34 rear is popular.
36 front 32 rear also is an option - and is what I personaly prefer.
I like a difference because I want to know what end will let go first.
And tyre pressures are one big factor in this.
(You only get a true tyre pressure reading when the tyre is cold - with heat tyres gain Psi....so putting air in at the petrol station can be inacurate)
Hope this helps
Steve
But yes the 18s do look far better!
18s perform better on new age.
Pressures
Run less at the back more at the front - as a rule.
36 front 34 rear is popular.
36 front 32 rear also is an option - and is what I personaly prefer.
I like a difference because I want to know what end will let go first.
And tyre pressures are one big factor in this.
(You only get a true tyre pressure reading when the tyre is cold - with heat tyres gain Psi....so putting air in at the petrol station can be inacurate)
Hope this helps
Steve
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I'm running Vredestien Sessantas and they ARE a fantastic tyre for all the reason given in the link about. HOWEVER, having covered just 10,000 miles, the fronts are nearly worn down and the backs aren't far behind
I do enjoy a bit of spirited driving but a lot of these miles have been steady motorway stuff. I'm going to try the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics next as 10K miles per set of tyres is a bit extravagant!!
I do enjoy a bit of spirited driving but a lot of these miles have been steady motorway stuff. I'm going to try the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics next as 10K miles per set of tyres is a bit extravagant!!
Seriously - interesting to see they are bad on wear. But I supose you cant have both hard wear and brilliant grip in one tyre.
When you put the goodyears on - let us know how they compare in grip and wear.
Cheers
Steve
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So would you lot say 32 psi all round on my 18" alloys is too low? If so what should they be at....and does tyre size make a difference to pressures.
my tyre size is 215/35/18
cheers
my tyre size is 215/35/18
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Most people would run higher pressues than that 34-36ish
However tyre pressure is a dark art
The only way to get it to a point that suits you is experiment with different pressures and tyres. And get to point where the car feels at one with you using tyre X and pressures Y front and Z back. Once you get there - just stick with your prefered formular.
There are no RULES as such
Steve
However tyre pressure is a dark art
The only way to get it to a point that suits you is experiment with different pressures and tyres. And get to point where the car feels at one with you using tyre X and pressures Y front and Z back. Once you get there - just stick with your prefered formular.
There are no RULES as such
Steve
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Vredestein Sessanta's I cannot say enough about the quality of vredestein tyres, probably similar to other brands for dry performance...but in the wet they are in a different league. Amazing wet grip
Alan
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iv got toyo t1 s on 17" wheels, never had any problem with them and im not soft with them lol. they are a cheap offer as the t1 r has now relpaced it. if your on a budget go for them but if not maybe go for something else. only saying that as i got a nail in sidewall of mine and struggled to get a t1 s replacment
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I've had both T1's and F1's on the scoob and prefer the F1's, Better grip in the dry and wet but simply fantastic with standing water.
The T1's were not very nice to drive with in standing water, took ages to scrub in (A good 2000 miles) and only lasted 17k compared to 25k for the F1's
I had major trouble finding replacement tyres in Sept, due to the size 215/35/18 for a classic, no one had any stock. I couldn't get Mitchilen, Conti, Vrederstien or Goodyear (These are the only tyres I'd consider trying) There was no stock of any in the country!!!!! Everywhere had the blasted Toyo's though
I had to get them mytyres in the end(who ship from germany)
The T1's were not very nice to drive with in standing water, took ages to scrub in (A good 2000 miles) and only lasted 17k compared to 25k for the F1's
I had major trouble finding replacement tyres in Sept, due to the size 215/35/18 for a classic, no one had any stock. I couldn't get Mitchilen, Conti, Vrederstien or Goodyear (These are the only tyres I'd consider trying) There was no stock of any in the country!!!!! Everywhere had the blasted Toyo's though
I had to get them mytyres in the end(who ship from germany)
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