trails

iTrader: (41)

I'll about to purchase some nice big brakes for my MY00 wagon...i know everyone raves about AP's but I'd like peoples opinions on comparisons between the two makes. the more i save on brakes the sooner i can afford my fmic and new turbo

cheers,
ian

whilst i'm asking, how much better are six pot than four pot brakes in real world conditions?

D1CCY

Ultimately AP 6 pots will stand repeated abuse better. More to the point is that the pedal feel of the APs is exquisite, much better than gold Brembos.

In addition you might not have to change your wheels to fit the APs as the calipers take up a bit less space.

Tidgy

ap and brembo are same company by the way, just different branch's

trails

iTrader: (41)

i'll be purchasing aftermarket brembos specifically for my MY00 rather than those bloody great new age sti jobbies...any change in advice?

trails

iTrader: (41)

i didn't know that...which is the parent company or are they owned by A N Other?

Tidgy

both partys are owned by another company, not sure what its called just know there different arms of same company

trails

iTrader: (41)

oh right, so not really the same company just the same owner

anyone recommend any cheap suppliers of either?

Tidgy

might be worth trying couple of other companies as well

trails

iTrader: (41)

anyone in mind?

stiler83

Brembo took over AP Racing Ltd in 2000. Their Brake systems are different however and so are the casting used in the discs. Having used AP for many years I have found their products to be generally superior to Brembo and the customer service to be very good.

Tidgy

yeah but cant think of the name grrrr, was about £1300 for 330mm disks and 6pot calipers including vat and deliv, just need fitting.

hang on i'll try to find out, ahhh have to find out to morrow, mate gave me the link

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Willwood?

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Stoptech also supposed to be very good. There was a GB on here recently if memory serves, maybe do a search and ask for some feedback off new users.

AP are universally very highly regarded, though.

Ns04

TI7OJO

if you want the best give powerstation a call about there monster 6 pot mono block porsche caliper kit, they use it on there race car. i think the kit is about £1600.

white

Stoptech are very very good.

I had their 4 pot, 328 kit on my CTR and it rocked. Massive stopping power with zero fade everytime.

Since sold the kit on to put my CTR back to standard before it goes and the guy who's bought them is over the moon with them. His CTR is running a 9psi S/C kit along with some S/C profile cams and puts out over 300BHP. He uses it for track days only and told me he had to get used to braking all over again since buying my kit, he really does rate it that high.

I think as long as you buy a well proven brand, go with some good pads, braided hoses and good fluid you should experience monster stopping power, just some may be a bit more 'monster' than some

You need to ask what will you be using the car for also. If track days are your thing, or your running big BHP and like doing some fast, relentless fast road driving then your gonna want the best stopping power possible IMHO.

KK3960

iTrader: (21)

So do we know who's best for AP 6 pots then in Uk? Im looking to upgrade shortly so could do with some help on the model numbers etc disc types for my newage any help apprecaited! Im assuming the 330mm discs are the preffered choice ?

D1CCY

AP website lists all the kits. The nice 330 mm one is CP5570, you can have grooved or drilled discs and red or black calipers (I've gone for grooved and black). I suspect there's not much difference in price wherever you go as these are a premium product so why should anyone discount it much. Scoobyclinic sourced mine for me and fitted them. ASPerformance are AP stockists. You won't get much change out of £2K what with VAT.

Trails, I don't have any experience of aftermarket Brembos, so can't help.

trails

iTrader: (41)

thanks for the replies so far gents...any more for any more?

ian

awd wrx

www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk

rossi_p

iTrader: (26)

Hey Trails,

Try Willwood http://www.wilwood.com/ , a US company that do brakes for NASCAR among others. I just missed a group buy on these and are apparently excellent (there may be a UK distributer or will have to import them).

I'm looking for a big brake set up myself so if you find anything for good value drop me a PM and might be able to get a group discount.

If I remember correctly (from meets a while ago), your wagon has the same wheels as my saloon , so the same brakes would be logical step .

Haven't been for ages as been sooo busy every weekend.

All the best
Ross

trails

iTrader: (41)

alright Ross,

there is a group buy just ending at the moment so maybe we could kick another off...?

your car is royal silver too isn't it...great taste

ian

rossi_p

iTrader: (26)

That's the one been absent for quite a while though.. Letting the team down

GB sounds good. Will have a look around for suppliers and prices but am crap at organising anything other than getting down the pub. Will try and get a list of prices, anybody else from the esc likely to want in?

trails

iTrader: (41)

i've not been around any meets since the begining of the year so i'm worse

i'll PM danny boy who set up the last one...

ian

rossi_p

iTrader: (26)

Had a look around at some web pages and the one below (inc hoses) comes in at approx £1,200 (ex shipping - have emailed them) for the front and rears.

http://www.spmotorsports.com/ATCsubaruwrx_brakes_kit_wilwood.html

Hopefully they will set up another group buy to avoid me c0cking up as I probably would

trails

iTrader: (41)

thats pretty good price even without the discount for both front and rears...i may end up selling the two pot MY03 calipers, disks and Dyney brackets if thats the case

rossi_p

iTrader: (26)

Not bad eh! Will wait to see if the other group buy hots up, but will keep you posted if any of the two companies I emailed come back with shipping costs and any kind of discount.

All the best
Ross

trails

iTrader: (41)

i'll post a link to this on the GB thread and see what interest we get

ian

borat52

If a GB does go ahead on these then it may be worth dropping gruppe-s an email,
I emailed them around the time of the last GB for some grooved and drilled 6 pot wilwoods and they could deliver to me for the same price as the GB price (that was just for one set) did not have the cash to spare at the time.

I'd be interested in front 6-pot and rear 4-pot both drilled and grooved.

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subbrk.htm

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

Had AP 6-Pots with 356mm discs on my old scooby and they where amazing, not once did I get brake fade, and they also gave me so much confidence braking late into corners.

The only thing I would say is that they where a bit of a overkill, first of all my newage WRX had 315bhp so wasnt all that powerful to warrant spending £1,700 on a set of brakes when maybe a set of Brembo's from a newage STi would have done, also I never used them on a trackday, so really I used them for fast road driving occasionally.

If I had to do it all again, I would settle for a set of Brembo's from the newage STi's, I think apart from the AP's looking good behind your wheels do you really need them, If you do a load of trackdays then fair play, there the best mod you can buy, but occasionnally fast road driving I would save the money that you would spend on the AP's and get a second hand set of Brembo's with some good pads!

DannyBoyTurbo

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...15#post5979315