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Old 13 April 2004, 11:20 AM
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I know this will probably start a arguement and every one has there opinion, but what are proven to be the best tyres for a classic ? I have Pirreli P zero's at the mo and in the dry they seem good, I have not tested in the wet yet. I know on most cars Bridgestone SO2-3 and pilot sports are the best, what about the scooby's ?
Old 13 April 2004, 11:27 AM
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I have P-Zero's too, I reckon they do the job fine, and worked really well on a wet track.
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Quite a few people like Good Year Eagle F1's and Toyo Proxies T1-s. I've header Hankook tyres are meant to be good especially considering the price.

try: http://www.mytyres.co.uk

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Old 13 April 2004, 05:03 PM
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I use to have good year eagle F1's all round on my type RA, seem to remember they were good in the wet, but could be better in the dry ? the p-zero's seem good in the dry though, probably got a thousand or so miles left so will have a think over the next month or so.

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Michellins every day of the week for me - I am interested in life, NOT grip

I get 2 years (25,000miles) out of my tyres ........ to think of anything less would just be stupid (IMHO)

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Goodyear F1's all the way, best by far for all round driving.
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im not too bothered about life as all tyres will start to disapear on the inside tyre wall before the rest of the tyre even starts to get dirty ! 4wd camber setups ! then again they do stick to the road ! I guess 10k on the fronts 15k on the back is about average for soft compound tyres ? scooby's don't really suffer from tram lining I have never noticed it anyway. 25K is good going for a set of tyres are they pilot sports ?
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I just replaced my tyres yesterday. Put Toyo T1-s on again. I'm happy with the grip/life/price. 23000 miles out of their last set, paid £316 for the set with nitrogen gas and a 3-year warranty.

Check out www.selectatyre.co.uk


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I have used Toyo Proxies & most recently Pirelli P Zero Asemetrico's these were good in the dry & not to bad in the wet, I have recently gone to the new Bridgestone Potenza RE 050 A 7 they stick like **** to a blanket wet or dry & i don't hang about either Mines on 205 x 45 x 17.
They get top marks on the tyre test also

http://mytyres.co.uk

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A vote for Toyo's here.

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i had yokohama a539 on a my97, they were great in the wet, not so good in the dry, had p zeros on a p1, great in the dry, not so good in the wet, then f1's, great all round
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Used to run Bridgestone S02s, now use S03s, which have lasted longer. Not happy paying £100 a corner tho.
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I have P-zero asemetrico's great in the dry, not really had the chance to test in the wet ? DeanF if you say the bridgestones RE 050's are the dogs ..... and you have had a pair of P-zero's already and prefer the Bridgestones I may have to investigate how much they will be a corner ? I am not disappointed with the P-zero's but I will need to change shortly and why not get the best and treat your scooby to some good rubber !
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Michellins every day of the week for me - I am interested in life, NOT grip

I get 2 years (25,000miles) out of my tyres ........ to think of anything less would just be stupid (IMHO)

Pete
Ditto.
Just bought my second Classic which came fitted with Michelin Premacy tyres. Not cool but they'll last for ages and grip is as good as you'll ever need on the road.
Old 17 April 2004, 02:46 PM
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F1's..
Old 17 April 2004, 04:27 PM
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Lads you've all got to remember is that every tyre is a balancing act between sheer outright grip (both wet and dry), ride & noise quality, wear rates and handling. You need to decide on what you want out of the tyre and how you drive your car day-to-day.

If you want just value for money and high wear rates stay clear of the high-performance tyres. If you want maximum grip, just remember you'll no doubt sacrifice on wear.

There is no such thing as the "ultimate" tyre for your Impreza simply because everyone has a different idea of what's ultimate for them. Unless you are specific in what you're looking for all of none of the above tyres might suit you.

75% of my day-to-day driving is motorway, so I'm looking for a tyre with little road noise and decent wear rates (12,000 miles out a set, for example). The remaining 25% is fast A/B-Road driving and there I want very good grip and little tramlining.

Given that I live in Scotland I also want very good wet grip and I'm willing to sacrifice a little of the above to achieve this.

Now, in my own personal experience I've went through 3 sets of tyres in 5 years and 67,500 miles. These were:-

Pirelli P-Zero Assimetrico (205/45/17) - Lasted 2.5 years and 29,000 miles.
Very good dry grip, low road noise, but I found them cr@p in the wet

Goodyear Eagle F1 (215/40/17) - Lasted 1.25 years and 16,000 miles
Great in dry, very good in the wet, extra road noise but wear quickly if you give them stick, especially on outer edges

Toyo Proxes T1-S (215/40/17) - Lasted 1.25yrs and 22,500 miles
Just as good as the others in the dry, but I found them very poor in the wet, especially greasy roads.

Obviously I've had very good mileage out my tyres, but since the majority is the daily drive to/from work then it's not that exceptional. If I spent the same commute covering B-roads, I'd expect at least half these mileages.

Just my 2p's worth,
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Old 17 April 2004, 05:44 PM
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...Trust Life...Trust Toyo's!!!
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A car's chassis has a large impact on how the car can use tyres. If someone raves about one tyre it could be that their car uses the tyre to it's full potential.

Anyway, once I decide on a tyre I want to try I'll basically shop around for the best price. Usual suspects are Internet, Mail Order or local garages. Whoever is cheaper get's my business.

Goodyears I bought off Micheldever coz they gave me a one-off fantastic deal (almost half-price for 4). Last time I bought my Toyo's from ScoobyWorld. Any local tyre companies I've tried simply couldn't compete with Mail Order ones on price. If it was a few pounds I'd give them the business, but usually they can't buy them for the price mail order sell them for.

I then just get my local garage to fit and balance them.

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My car has apex coilovers, Powerflex bushes, Front top & lower braces & rear Top brace so is quite taught & stiff on the ride..

The Toyo's were good in the dry & not to bad in the Wet but i found the broke away on the limit quite sudden, Wear quite rapid (my driving)

Pirelli Asemetrics good in the dry & not to bad in the wet , found they made the steering heavier but broke away far more progressively & controllable (wear, longer than the toyo's)

Bridgestone Potenza re 050 good in the dry & good in the wet, Low road noise , (less then the pirellis) Brake away has not happend yet must not be trying hard enough
£102 from mytyres.co.uk £115 from local fitter

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Don't dismiss the SO3's based on the break in time. It takes a few hundred miles to scrub in most tyres.

I've only tried the F1's and Toyo's. Goodyears would get me vote out of the two.
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Don't dismiss the SO3's based on the break in time
However I would dismiss them based on their chronic tendancy to tramline (sticking the fronts up to 36psi reduced it.. but didn't reduce it enough)

and their tendancy to be verging on 'crap in the wet'

Completely different beast from the SO2's and totally overpriced for what you get.

Go with the Goodyear Eagle F1GSD'3s

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That's more like a proper dismissal
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Eagle f1's for me!!
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edited earlier post.... as meant to say tramline as opposed to understeer
Old 20 April 2004, 10:18 PM
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F1s in all weather but I think the Toyos are better in the dry.
So F1s it is for this country
And whats all this 20k + miles all about? Can someone teach me pls?
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