AllanB

I've got a set os 17 OZ Supertourismos and am undecided which tyre to go for. Don;t want to spend SO2 money as most of my time is spent on motorways but I;ve heard good things about the Proxes and the Eagle F1. Has anyone had both of these and can give me an opinion on the differences of the two on the same car.

Thanks

AllanB

SecretAgentMan

I'm running F1's on my scoob, and I love 'em.
A m8 of mine has Proxes on his, and he seems to have lesser grip on the dry as well as on the wet stuff.
His tires break loose more gradually though, my F1's have a tendency to "snap"...kind of scary when it happens.

They're both great tires...but I'd go for the F1's again any day.

Rgds

/Jerry - Sweden

Bob Rawle

Alan there is no contest, the very worst thing I've ever done is to fit the Toyes to my car, they are definately not a patch on the F1. The other tyres to consider IMHO are the Falken FK451 and the good old Bridgestone SO2 but ... don't fit the Toyes, you will regret it. the Falkens were only £71 a corner and were just as good in the dry as the SO2's. In the wet they were 95% as good being just a touch more progressive in breakaway. I'm sure the Toyes are good under the right conditions on the right car but they do not seem to suit the Scube. Just my opinion of course. I can break traction under almost any cirumstance when driving in damp/wet conditions these days and its down right "interesting" at times. Got the Falkens from Micheldever and they did me for 19,500 miles b4 I lost the shoulders with 3 mm of tread left.

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The Zohan

For what it's worth.

I do not have any experience of the Toyo's

I fitted a set of F1's after the Bridgstone 010's died. IMHO The F1's are a lot better than the 010's in the dry and 100% better in the wet.

phill chinn

have to agree with the others the F1's are great, and outstanding in the wet.

phill

DavieR

The Toyo's are a reasonable budget tyre, nothing more, and definately not in the same league as F1's or SO2's. You pays your money, etc.....
D

WALKER

Guys...............sorry, but i have to disagree.

I had F1s on my uk car and i must say that they were and are(wife now has car) superb.

When i bought the Type R, i got rid of the oe tyres and put on Toyos. I can hoestly say that i find them as good, if not better than the F1s. Did Donno last week and the levels of dry grip were astounding.

Bear in mind though that these are on 16" rims and not 17"s.

Paul

PeterPerfect

Hi Walker

What tyre pressures do you run on the Toyos ?
My new Toyos are causing rear of car to shift around after cornering

DaveW

I agree with Walker. I find my Toyos better than the F1's I had on before. But I'm on 16" wheels. Only thing I do find is that the sidewalls of both F1's and Toyo's are a lot softer than the OE tyres, so the car moves around more before it grips. Which takes a bit of getting used to.

PP - FYI I'm running 32 front 30 rear and get good grip with even wear.

DaveW

bugwaan

Check out some tyre web sites and you will find from all feedback that the TOYO's are an excellent tyre BUT......

they MUST be run at the correct tyre pressure at each corner...otherwise they aint that flash..
So it then becomes trial and error to get the correct pressure for the particular car in question. PAIN IN THE BUTT.....
They also go off faster than other comparable tyres..
I would stay well clear of any TOYO's...
bite the bullet and get some S0-2's or even RE-711's....stick with BRIDGESTONE..

PeterPerfect

Thanks Dave.

I'm running 33f 30r but have lost confidence in the car as the back end does it's own thing coming out of corners

16" rims with 200 miles on Toyos.
At what mileage do Toyos start delivering the goods ?

Clarkey

I've just fitted Goodyear Eagle F1s, replacing P zeros. Wembley tyres supplied them fitted for £302 for 4, and they are much better than the P zeros, wet and dry.

boothphi

Guys,

Anyone has experience with Dunlop SP9000's?

The Zohan

Just a quickie

I am running my F1's @ 32/32PSI
16" wheels

is this correct?

WALKER

As regards to tyre pressures, get yourself a ACCURATE pressure gauge, about a tenner from Halfords. On a nice sunny sunday morning have a play around with them.

I run 32f/30r and find that the best for my car and my driving. It really is what suits you best.

Paul

Pbone

On my second set of Goodyear F1's. Cant fault them at all.

DaveW

PP,

I found my Toyos pretty much ok from the start. But I did take it easy with them for about 50 miles to let them bed in.

After that I went to my favorite road to see if they squeal as much as F1's. Which they do only a different pitch

DaveW

Milky

After getting a bit fed up with the Toyo's I decided to try some different tyre pressures. Spot on, the handling of the car was transformed (well maybe a bit over the top), up'ing the pressure on the rear seemed to help a lot. I was running 30/28 which was not bad on the bumpy roads of West Yorkshire (Huddersfield!!), now on 32/30 and a lot better handling.

Darren.

AlanG

Clarkey
That price for F1's....was that for 16's ?
I've just been quoted £320 supply/fit/VAT etc for 215/40x17's.

Get the feeling i've now been ripped off by dealer.

Can anyone tell me if this is a good price in this size?

Also remember reading a thread on making sure the tyres are to European spec. Can anyone tell me what I should look for on the tyre to confirm this?

cdunleavey

I went to Wembley Tyres today for a couple of new Toyo Proxy 215/45 17"s, but ended up getting the SO2's instead as the price was excellent. For info, I paid 85 pound + VAT per corner, which I thought was a great deal.

The service and care taken from the guys there was excellent, leaving my painted alloys unblemished. I'd certainly recommend them for anyone in the area, as their prices seem very keen.

BHORT

AlanG,

My Eagle F1s are made in Germany for what its worth. I had a conversation with a number of tyre fitters regarding the cost of F1s compared to Wembley tyres and they said that they were paying more for them themselves. I thought that Wembley were importing them on a large scale from the continent. Nothing wrong with that I would have had some from there myself other than the petrol costs to get to London offsetting the savings.

Incidentially also spoke to Goodyear customer services a while ago and yes it is possible that other countries will have F1s with a different compound that may be less suitable for our climate. I was advised to keep clear of any made in South Africa that may have made their way here.

Brendan

Clarkey

My F1's are 16 inch. I believe that Wembley Tyres import them a couple of hundred a time from Germany, so they are proper Euro spec.

AlanG

BHORT
Thanx for the reply.
Incidentally the tyres i'm supposed to be getting are made in Thailand.
Do you have any idea if this is a problem?

My dealer said he had heard of the problem with SA tyres for this country but seems to think the ones he has in stock are okay.

Can anyone confirm this before I part with hard earned tomorrow?

Also can you check what your treadwear rating is on your F1 tyres. From what I remember on Saturday, they had a rating of 200 which is slightly harder wearing than my Pirelli P7000's which are 160.

Thanx all

A

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