6 pot brakes locking up
22 October 2022, 10:50 PM
#1
6 pot brakes locking up
So bought some 6 pot brake setup, but when braking hard seem to feel like there locking up abit. Could they just need bedding in?
They are a used set, but pads have loads of life in them.
Been on the car for about 50 miles so far.
They are a used set, but pads have loads of life in them.
Been on the car for about 50 miles so far.
Last edited by jaygsi; 23 October 2022 at 08:38 PM.
23 October 2022, 09:05 AM
#3
Scooby Regular
and You complained to me about word fender
back to topic use clutch when braking it should help if You have abs otherwise thats normal without
Last edited by JdmSti2006; 23 October 2022 at 09:08 AM.
23 October 2022, 08:43 PM
#5
It's my phones fault, keeps changing spelling.
But it shouldn't be happening.
Want to try workout why.
But it shouldn't be happening.
Want to try workout why.
Originally Posted by JdmSti2006
breaking🤣
and You complained to me about word fender
back to topic use clutch when braking it should help if You have abs otherwise thats normal without
and You complained to me about word fender
back to topic use clutch when braking it should help if You have abs otherwise thats normal without
23 October 2022, 10:03 PM
#6
Is it the old three channel ABS or 4 channel (MY99ish onwards I think).
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
Last edited by ALi-B; 23 October 2022 at 10:07 PM.
23 October 2022, 10:43 PM
#7
Is it the old three channel ABS or 4 channel (MY99ish onwards I think).
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
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24 October 2022, 12:00 PM
#9
It's a 1998 model. Guessing the 4 channel is better?
Cheers for advice, yea it feels like its the rear brake's are locking up abit. Nothing massive just twitch, but still doesn't inspire confidence. Braking seems to work ok.
Cheers for advice, yea it feels like its the rear brake's are locking up abit. Nothing massive just twitch, but still doesn't inspire confidence. Braking seems to work ok.
Is it the old three channel ABS or 4 channel (MY99ish onwards I think).
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
The old three channels can really get into a spaz if things aren't matched up right. For example m, If fronts haven't bedded in, it's possible a rear brake can lock, which results in lots of ABS pulsing and very little reduction in speed.
Personally I'd pull the fuse, see how it goes (with care) and work from there. Could be lots of things, but if there is a front/rear or left/right balance issue (air etc.). Then taking the ABS system out of the equation should help expose any underlying issue.
24 October 2022, 01:01 PM
#10
Scooby Regular
far too much front effort in comparison to the baby rears is causing the car to pitch its weight onto the nose and lift the rear wheel causing lack of traction and ultimately locking........
24 October 2022, 07:50 PM
#11
Do you think that will stop once I fit my 2 pots? Got them ready to go on next. Standard 2 pot newage calipers.
Originally Posted by stockcar
far too much front effort in comparison to the baby rears is causing the car to pitch its weight onto the nose and lift the rear wheel causing lack of traction and ultimately locking........
24 October 2022, 09:42 PM
#12
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Yep sounds like the issue I was having, 6 pots on the front, one pot on the back. Classic ABS is terrible for the most part. I remember just hitting a pot hole or bump in the road with the brakes lightly pressed and it would have an issue. Could also be pads and discs not playing ball with each other. Mine did that when cold.
26 October 2022, 01:15 AM
#13
Really, I've never had any issues with my abs using 4 pots on the front and 1 pots on the rear.
Hope I don't have to go back to 4 pots. If I do I will have to pay out for some decent pads.
Will try upgrading the rear brakes to 2 pots and hope that resolves the issue.
Of not will go back to 4 pots. Thanks for the helpful info.
Hope I don't have to go back to 4 pots. If I do I will have to pay out for some decent pads.
Will try upgrading the rear brakes to 2 pots and hope that resolves the issue.
Of not will go back to 4 pots. Thanks for the helpful info.
Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
Yep sounds like the issue I was having, 6 pots on the front, one pot on the back. Classic ABS is terrible for the most part. I remember just hitting a pot hole or bump in the road with the brakes lightly pressed and it would have an issue. Could also be pads and discs not playing ball with each other. Mine did that when cold.
26 October 2022, 11:25 AM
#14
Although id image this would be under heavier braking only?
My car had 8pot k sports on the front and single rears for a while.... but was on coilovers, this didnt let it pitch as much so no braking issues even with ABS.
What pads are in the 6 pots?
26 October 2022, 12:14 PM
#15
Although id image this would be under heavier braking only?
My car had 8pot k sports on the front and single rears for a while.... but was on coilovers, this didnt let it pitch as much so no braking issues even with ABS.
What pads are in the 6 pots?
27 October 2022, 02:45 PM
#16
Yes under heavy braking.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
Originally Posted by DDS789
i agree with this
Although id image this would be under heavier braking only?
My car had 8pot k sports on the front and single rears for a while.... but was on coilovers, this didnt let it pitch as much so no braking issues even with ABS.
What pads are in the 6 pots?
Although id image this would be under heavier braking only?
My car had 8pot k sports on the front and single rears for a while.... but was on coilovers, this didnt let it pitch as much so no braking issues even with ABS.
What pads are in the 6 pots?
28 October 2022, 09:45 AM
#17
Yes under heavy braking.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
Double check your ABS light illuminates on start annd goes out after a few seconds also
But it could still be the pitching problem with soft suspension. Its not uncommon to make an upgrade in one area and it immediately exposes the next weak point. When you mess with brakes its affects suspension and tyre performance also
Last edited by DDS789; 28 October 2022 at 09:58 AM.
31 October 2022, 07:08 PM
#18
Thats exactly what I suffered; Unfortunately I found out by sailing into the back of an Audi. Was doing 20mph and the b*st*rd thing just refused to stop. Initially thought it was diesel on the road until it happened again. From that point onwards ABS fuse was pulled and then the problem became obvious; Rears would grab first on the first 3 to 4 hardish stops, only until after that the fronts started to do their job.
03 November 2022, 02:59 PM
#19
Yes under heavy braking.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
I bought a full set of nearly new D2 calipers, 6 pot fronts and 4 pot rears, but after found they wouldn't fit under my 17" alloys, and didn't want to change to 18".
Heard people having issues with 18" app alloys on the classic models.
So bought some used K sports brakes, that had been fitted to a track car. They looked smaller and fitted under to the 17" alloys.
I could be wrong but think there just K sports own pads.
Last edited by IainMilford; 03 November 2022 at 03:13 PM.
07 November 2022, 12:05 AM
#20
Oh dear that's not good. Right will upgrade rears first see how that fares. Don't want dodgy brakes.
Thats exactly what I suffered; Unfortunately I found out by sailing into the back of an Audi. Was doing 20mph and the b*st*rd thing just refused to stop. Initially thought it was diesel on the road until it happened again. From that point onwards ABS fuse was pulled and then the problem became obvious; Rears would grab first on the first 3 to 4 hardish stops, only until after that the fronts started to do their job.
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