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Old 08 June 2002, 11:17 PM
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Ok bad driving,
I have 215-35-18 ****ty tyres on the scoob, (MY98). What tyre/size can I fit on my car to give my wheels some protection from the kerb?
Old 09 June 2002, 03:40 AM
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as you know i had 225 40 18 on mine and they rub only a little but not a nice noise when it happens
Old 10 June 2002, 10:10 AM
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when i got 18's for my p1 i went for 225/35 goodyears, they rub every now and then with a full load, fine on my own
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Old 10 June 2002, 12:14 PM
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Toyo T1-s proxes have side protection...
Old 26 June 2002, 08:14 PM
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I have tried getting hold of the new P Zero Nero(215/35/18) but have been told by Pirelli they are on "back order", Kwik Fit tell me they are not in production. So,what's going on?
I don't really want Toyo, so is there another tyre???
Old 26 June 2002, 11:03 PM
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Don't know why you don't want Toyo's - compared to the P-Zero's that come on the P1 they are miles better (personal view by the way )
Old 27 June 2002, 09:22 AM
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Most kerbs are taller than a 215/35 section tyre (that's only 3" from the ground to the rim, without the car weight making it even less) so what tyre is fitted will make absolutely no difference whatsoever to the rim clouting the kerb. The only solution is not to kerb them in the first place. Not having a pop, just stating the obvious.
Old 27 June 2002, 06:57 PM
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I have seen the p zero nero on 18's and the rim protector does a cracking job. So I do think it matters which tyre you fit.
Old 28 June 2002, 08:40 AM
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Please yourself, but your wheels are kerbed and mine aren't.......if you think a little bit of rubber is going to give protection against 1300kg of car forcing the tyre against an unyielding kerb, carry on....
Old 28 June 2002, 01:19 PM
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Dave T-S,

You've got me confused....

It shouldn't matter what the height to the rim is for a tyre. Surely the tyre sits on the ground, and as long as it protudes further out than the rim then this should protect the wheel, as the tyre touches the kerb before the edge of the rim?

I seem to remember some tyres actually have a protective rim on the side of the tyre for this purpose??
Old 28 June 2002, 06:56 PM
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If you have (say) 3" from the rim to the ground, and you rub up against a 4" high kerb I guarantee you that 1300kg of car will deflect the sidewall enough to scrape the kerb and ruin the alloy, whatever the tyre manufacturer might tell you about their kerb protector. There is no beading in the sidewall - with a radial it is all round the tread - and the sidewall is soft and deflects relatively easily.

If you think about it, if you are steering into the kerb so that the tyre touches and continue to do so, the other side wheel will still be trying to force the tyre into the kerb, and the kerb side tyre sidewall will deflect until something unyielding hits the kerb - i.e. the wheel.......

Anyone that thinks I am talking bo11ocks care to try it to check?

[Edited by Dave T-S - 6/28/2002 6:59:32 PM]
Old 28 June 2002, 08:08 PM
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Here here Tony,
Dave-- Sling It!!
I already said my driving was not as good as could be and asked for a tyre that had a rim protector, not for you to hi-jack the thread and gloat about your clean unkerbed alloys.
Old 28 June 2002, 10:51 PM
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Errr, remember I posted....


Not having a pop, just stating the obvious.
I didn't at any point say that I was criticising you and still aren't. Nor was I hijacking your thread. All I said was that a kerbing rib will NOT protect your rims. All I was trying to do was be helpful and save you damaging your alloys again and save you money/grief.

Nor was I gloating - the only reason my rims are not damaged is because I know kerbing ribs do not work and always park so far from the kerb you need a drawbridge to reach the pavement.

However, as I said, if you don't believe me and think I am talking crap, please feel free to test your new tyres with their fancy kerbing rib by kerbing them and see what happens.......

Of course, if you want me to keep my advice to myself, just say so, was just trying to help.....



[Edited by Dave T-S - 6/28/2002 10:54:28 PM]
Old 28 June 2002, 11:40 PM
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Well that's me told

You're a naughty boy alanjack
Old 30 June 2002, 02:08 AM
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LOL, know what u mean Dave. Not that my parking was ever good but I make even more effort to park away from the kerb now I have the scoob and I only have 17" rims
Old 30 June 2002, 05:18 AM
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Well, personal experience has been:

P7000 - 3 scratches

S-03 - 0, RE-01 - 0

Combo of my bad driving and living in Japan (lotsa v. narrow roads that are 2 way )

From now on, yen fer yen, pound fer pound and dollar 4 dollar I'll take the ones with decent rim protectors.
Old 30 June 2002, 03:15 PM
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rim protectors didnt save my alloys when a 40 ton truck had to be avoided with a bounce off of the kerb
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