tim.gilbert23

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this is Probably the wrong forum.. but it is still "wanted" lol

i "want" 300 bhp.

What is the most cost effective way to achieve a bolt on 300bhp from a 99 uk classic?

Thanks

Timo

leroyscoob

im tryin to get 300bhp at the mo m8..ive got a import wrx

try aftermarket exhaust....including de-cat...induction kit....mcb (manual control boost)

you will need to fit a knock link sensor ..and also have a boost gauge.

with the boost up around 1.1 bar you should be close to 300 m8..

Neilo

no chance, the UK car will have a TD04 fitted and at 1.1 bar will make about 265. You would need to change your turbo to something larger like a TD05-16g or APS SR30 to achieve 300.

so you'd need decat, fuel pump, injectors, turbo, a good panel filter (green)and better intercooling will help but not all together essential (just means youd have to run higher boost to achieve the same result)

leroyscoob

i was unsure of that side of things...i realised after that it was a uk spec...sorry.

RLE

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Your right mate but my UK97 did 290 bhp on the TD04 turbo with pretty much the mods stated. Went to TD05 and added fuel pump and achieved 310 bhp. Apexi ecu was final bit of puzzle-320 bhp with similar torque

leroyscoob

am i right in thinking the import spec 96 has a td05 turb..??

so with the simple mods i stated and setup i would achive around 300 bhp

Tidgy

might have to be a bit carefull, getting towards the upper limit of the standard uk pistons/rods, not the forged ones you get in the sti's.

leroyscoob

AHHH..


ok...well im gettin a knock link senser aswell...mite just set it up at 1 bar..

(OH...SORRY ABOUT TAKING OVER YOUR THREAD TIM_GILBERT23)

hope you get some answers out of this aswell...lol

Neilo

Ah but he said he wanted 300...so with a stadnard TD04 thats pretty much not going to happen....290 yes, ive seen it a fair few times but 300 no, unless its an Andy.F TD04 hybrid.

Thats not overly true...my car runs 1.4bar all day, + nitrous and the engine hardly knocks at all, apart from when you initially switch the NOS on...and thats been running around 410bhp on the last few drag runs......totally standard engine internals.

If your running silly boost and by that i mean 1.5bar + then yeah, your engine may not last that long especially if its been badly maintained. Your mapper can advise you of whats a safe level. I was assured by Bob Rawle that 1.4bar was perfectly fine on my car, i even said that i intended to track it, drag it etc and he still said, yep, thats ok.

leroyscoob

cool.


so i know if im running 1.1 bar on my import i should be ok..

thanks for the advice guy's..

Neilo

as long as youve got enough fuel going in then 1.1 bar will be ok, if 1.1 bar is a lot more than standard then i woudlnt do it. (by a lot more i mean more than about 0.2bar)

leroyscoob

im boostin 0.6 bar at the moment...

and i havent got a de-cat yet....so will see what it boost's at then..

Neilo

i definitely wouldnt wind it up to 1.1 then mate, for your own sake. If you wanted to try something relatively sensible, buy a dawes boost controller and slowly raise it up, i would say no further than 0.8 for now....you will probably notice a fair bit more response from just that and its only 25 quid.

If you dont have any form of knock detection though then its best left as is, as otherwise it will be too late and BANG! (if you get it wrong...)

leroyscoob

yeh im gettin a knock link..

also a decat pipe....think it will boost a bit higher after ive fitted the de-cat

we shall see...de-cat first then move on...

tim.gilbert23

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lol . well i think that means i need a TD05 turbo & De-Cat. Does the TD05 do straight on?


Do i need a map as well?

Thanks

Timo

Pedroskate

Check this out, it may answer some of your turbo questions.
http://andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html

Pedro

V5-APS

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Any of the VF turbos will get you to your goal as well and are all bolt on for your car.
A WALBRO 255 fuel pump and a VF35 will retain good low down torque as well as meet your goal of 300 + bhp easily. Not sure what injectors the my99 UK cars came with.
Cheers

RS Grant

IIRC the late Classic UK's came with 440's as standard.


Cheers,
Grant

jasonius

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I can second this, same for me although I'm still running TD04. Std injectors are well within there DC. Good man that BR..!

Improved intercooling helps IMHO..!

WRX05.