dave_t

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A bit of an odd question, but here we are on SNet and most of us supporting South Wales Scooby's that seems to be a specific SWS club from a few years ago.

Has SWS therefore died and left us with a welsh branch of Scoobynet?
Or is SWS actually active (seeing as many pay to be part of)?

Not nit-picking or being funny about anything at all, just asking....

Are we Welsh Scoobynet or South Wales Scooby's?

If we are South Wales Scooby's why are we residing in Forums/regional/wales, shouldn't we be in Forums/clubs/South Wales Scooby's?

CREWJ

I was thinking about this when I went looking for the club meet.

Cannon Fodder

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South Wales Scooby's has never had it's own forum area with Scoobynet, it has always since I have been on here resided in the Welsh section of Scoobynet.

The Welsh forum isn't as active as it once was but that is the same for Scoobynet as a whole I think you will find.

As for SWS being dead or dying then there are things that you can do to prevent this - get involved, organise events, meets etc.

At the moment there are just two/three people who help organise the meets, show attendances etc and it would be nice to attend more events but the burden at the moment is being shouldered by a minority rather than the majority.

I am trying to spark debate here and not a bun fight, if you feel something could be done better or something new can be done then please step forward.

The Trooper 1815

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SWS have been a lose group of people, who enjoy their cars, have meets monthly and attend shows. It's not got a main organiser and no-one is forced to wear a "uniform" to say your in. The little avatar helps to pay for the whole site and not just the welsh bit. We could start charging a specific subscriptions to access the site and that would just cause an "Us and Them " attitude and close out other members. Other clubs have gone down this "I am in" route and failed.

There are many who attend shows and runs who very rarely post on here but have been around for years, there are stalwart attenders and not just passed through. Many of us meet as friends which as always been the biggest part of the groups ethos.There are are even fewer of us who organise shows, days out and runs to which many say they will come but some just don't bother their **** on the day without so much as a sorry by PM or telephone, it gets very demoralising. Or others who turn up and behave like complete dicks with their driving antics or behaviour. We like enthusiasm but not idiots, I am sure you will agree.

Who's attended Rally Day, PCAD, The Pod, Japfest, Goodwood, The New Year Runs, Sunday Lunches or Charity Car Shows?
We have a club banner, flag, Lee's Gazebo and in a few days a new window sticker (stand by).

Roll on the New Year where all the new members can show their support and committment.

dave_t

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Hi CF. Hence me sending you ideas for an Xmas Run....

I totally understand the situation mate and you are right that things like this are always shouldered by a minority that don't get the just deserves for the time & effort involved in such things. So have a big up from me and i'm sure from others as well.

I was part of small team that started Club GTI back in the day of the MK1 Golf. Within a matter of 8 months that 'little Club' was being run by about 6 of us, had escalated massively in size, arranged a bi-monthly 'posted' magazine/websites/'our own' track days/sprints etc & also GTI International which probably had 4,000 plus in attendance....All run by about 6 unpaid chaps & wives etc. It was great when I was 19 as to be honest Club GTI/beer/nooky was the sum total of what was important to me! By 21 I was absolutely knackered with the whole thing.

With regards to SWS, i was only asking as a separate SWS site still exists but looks redundant giving the impression that SWS is actually dead.

I will PM you shortly.

The Trooper 1815

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Dave, You've got a chance to organise a Run over Christmas. Me or Ty normally do it but I am currently Scoobless and Ty may still be "in prep".

bry with a y

Alright fella If your referring to SWS as a WHOLE then the answer is no, the other welsh club cymraeg scooby is going well, I met a few members last night and they seem very down to earth and friendly, i totally agree how much hard work behind the scene goes into arranging meets and events,but basic manners and friendliness goes a long way and maybe some people miss that fact out, why would I want to go to meet if I hardly nobody spoke only if your face fitted? You soon realise why there is 2 scooby clubs not just one big happy family.. Instead of having one big group some people think their s@@t don't stink and sit on their own table while the rest go elsewhere? Friendliness goes a long way fella

Cannon Fodder

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Not wishing to dig up old issues which predate my time with SWS but the issues between the two clubs are historical.

I believe (although I'm happy to be corrected) that a previous organiser of SWS decided he wanted to take the club in a direction that some of the members weren't happy with.

The organiser then left with some of the members and formed CSC, I believe that person left CSC some time ago as well.

Personally I've no problem with any CSC members, both clubs have members and take a slightly different slant on what they want and do with their club.

The Trooper 1815

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Dave,
You are correct an SWS site did exist but due to lack of support it folded, but I am not sure if it's the site Chris and Gem started. If you root about you will find a Scooby Wales site as well, again due to support or lack of it ended.

The handy thing about SN is it's aregister and get almost instant access site. No need for moderators or money to change hand to get access which can be seen as a good/bad thing in the bigger scheme of things. By this evening the Vintage and Specialist Car Rally dates will be posted, another opportunity to show some support.

As Ty eluded to, in the mists of time things with CSC and SWS did not work. One reason was probably the closed website issue and the slagging off that went on in it. A few SN members got on access, found out some ****e and the rest as they say is history, but hey,each to their own. As they say "Lifes not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain" .

I feel abit guilty at the mo as my new Scoob won't arrive until early 2014 so cannot participate fully in all the stuff, my gold Rover 25 1.4 sh*tter hardly qualifies for the Xmas Run.

The Haynes Museum trip is still on the back burner but that's another one to keep an eye on for all the families too.

dave_t

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Hi again C.F.
Predates me as well and what has happened doesn't really have to be brought to light (although its OK to know). Separation is not always a bad thing and if both clubs are happy 'all is good'.

CSC is its own club with its own identity.
SWS is not so clear to me (nor crewj at #2 I think)

If you Google South Wales Scoobys, top of the list is this site:
http://www.freewebs.com/southwalesscoobys/ which by looking at the dates is defunct.
One could easily deduce that SWS is therefore defunct also, even though it resides "within Scoobynet" albeit with no mention of SWS (as according to Scoobynet we are "just the welsh region")?

dave_t

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Hi Trooper.

Could we not find out who ran the old site?
Is it not worth asking if the defunct site could be removed?
Could we have our Scoobynet regional page have a sticky saying "Welcome to Wales, the home of SWS"? Just so newcomers actually know where they are?

Only thoughts matey

The Stitcher

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Be part of both that way you have the best of both worlds

dave_t

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Thermalp4

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Isn't there a meet coming up soon?

I want someone else to drown my sorrows with about my head gasket.

dave_t

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yep this Wednesday mate lots of shoulders to cry on. Bry's are good, they are huge lol!

evil.soup

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Chris and his other half Gemma ran the SWS site. They were die hard scoobynuts. Im not really sure what happened to them, think they may have just fallen out of love with Subaru after a few issues, like many people do. I could be wrong on that count of course, I just don't remember them so much as leaving as fading away. My car has also worn the SWS badge almost since i owned it and even when attending some events with CSC, but i was made to park at the back so i couldnt be seen lol! Back in the day i was friendly with those from both camps so had access to CSC but the bad mouthing from within a closed forum was rather out of order and causing more bad feeling. I did pipe up about it on there the few times it happened and eventually one day i found myself blocked from the site. I never kicked off or spoke out of turn and i was always polite but i am a straight talker and if i see something i feel is wrong i cant help but open my mouth.
Its all water under the bridge now of course but it did leave me rather disapointed at the time that my honest opinion in the defence of those that couldnt access the site to defend themselves got me kicked.

KJD Mk1

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SWS has always operated from the Welsh section on Scoobynet, its an identity not a closed shop!!

As said its open to all, you can either dip a toe in or a whole torso it's up to you.

Best to keep money away from running a club it only causes grief and who needs that.

Always goes a bit quiet in the winter so perfectly normal.

As for the other club..... Well lets not go there again

The Trooper 1815

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The Stitcher

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There is always the sidc Welsh section that still runs and has a few that posts there too , they also attended shows etc and are the main Subaru club of all

The Trooper 1815

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Chris moved jobs, Gem lost hers and they eventually sold the Scoob to Dylan. It's a shame really as I have some top video clips from a run up to Castle Combe they made.

dave_t

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Hey this really is all cool

I get the reasoning behind suing the Scoobynet portal, which again is all good!

All i'm saying is if SWS is residing here, lets at least have a sticky saying who we are

a: Newcomers would get it when SWS gets mentioned, (rather than Google a club that looks defunct).
b: As original SWS members drop by the wayside, SWS will remain (rather than newbies thinking they are on Scoobynet/Wales)
c: We may attract a few more SWS supporters, if they new it was alive!

Cannon Fodder

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Not in Wales they're not Lee, as a region Wales is largely ignored by SIDC.

Some time back I was approached by them to be the RO for Wales, I agreed and never heard any more from them.

Wales used to be a good region for them but they've let it slip away.

bry with a y

Good call you can have a Toby with the scooby net boys and homemade muffins and coffee with cymraeg scooby Happy days

KJD Mk1

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I think the open nature of the Welsh section is a good thing and there for everyone.

Closed shop clubs are just that "closed" unless your face fits.

I'd assume that anyone new would search Subaru and come up with scoobynet.
Getting thus far looking in your regional section should be the next step.

This section as said as been one of the busiest on scoobynet for years and many of us have become very good friends.

I don't see an awful lot wrong with it TBH buts that just my opinion

KJD Mk1

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Does that make you a double agent Bry .

The Stitcher

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Sorry should have made my self clear and ment there is a Welsh section on the sidc forum

Or has that gone now ? As ain't been on there for a while

Silver Scooby Sport

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https://www.scoobynet.com/wales-26/9...s-listing.html

I think in many respects you may be looking to far into things, the SWS concept was not for a tight club where you had to attend and get your name ticked off the list it was just a group that was formed in order to get more organised have meets and go to shows etc, many people drift in and out, some remain for long periods and some only appear once in a blue moon.

There's not one person sat in command it's something that has really never happened, it's a joint effort by many with many different skills. Organising is one and at the moment Ian and Ty have been doing that but also there are decals and clothing that pop up from time to time again from different people, it's just a shared identity by many... Some people don't get involved in the organisation of anything which again if fine, everyone is different everyone has something to give. In the past many different people have organised attendance at shows and gone as SWS plus runs and RR days out. I seem to remember Ian "evil soup" doing some decals a few years ago too.

That old SWS forum is going back what must be 8 years or more now, there's to many forums to many places for people to visit and it's just not viable that's why SWS have simply resided here as a central hub for an informal club. Any and every club has ebb and flow with participating people and a lot is down to the time of the year and what people have planned. The welsh section can be quite at times but just remember it's the welsh section as a whole we have friends from North, East and West Wales as well as South and it's great banter all around, a club regional section was looked at but I do feel the welsh section as a whole would loose out from that segregation and it was not ultimately for the right reasons at the time.

Ty I just spotted your sidc comments and yes I think you were right at a point in time but I feel that times may have changed and it may be worth another enquiry if you wish, I think they hit a really lean patch at one point when it went to Scotland but there are still some hard and fast members and organisers that are still fighting to get more down this end, I have spoken to couple of organisers and long time members throughout this year and the passion is still there trust me. I'm still a member always have been since owning the car.
Correct me if I'm wrong but in reference to Lee's thoughts I think the sidc forum is now a locked members only forum?

Like a few of the others I also have been without a car this year but it's back now

bry with a y

if it's to do with food then yes

KJD Mk1

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Lee, the welsh section is still there but unloved and unused.

I can assure you the new chairperson is keen to get it up and running again.

The situation with Tyron should not of happened but the club did go through some big changes at the time and it all got a bit lost.

If anyone is interested I can put you in touch with the right person.

KJD Mk1

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Many a man has been "turned" by a cooked dinner

It may be necessary to do a strip search at the next meet to see if you have your Csc underpants on!