scooby1508

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What you guys think of LPG converting the scooby I know it sounds stupid but I can't afford to run a second car and it will save having to get rid of her the price on fuel is starting to cripple me as I do a lot of milage a week

evil.soup

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Its crossed my mind a few times but its only really worth it if you are going to put in the miles to get the return for the cost of fitting it.
Its also worth considering that the government have only guaranteed the price to be low until some point in 2012 as far as i am aware. I could be wrong on that part, however its worth looking into!

"Taylor"

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Try posting in the general section, bound to be a few people that have done it and could give some good feedback.

The Trooper 1815

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My old Foggy STi was LPG converted after I sold it. There are a few on here who have done it but it's not cheap. Short journeys on a Scoob are the killer.

I bought my run around for £400, £125 a year tax, £250 insurance and I do about 9 miles a day to work, even the cost of getting it through the MOT (£200) works out at less than half the price of a conversion. To re-coup it you would have to put the miles in.

The Scoob is only doing "fun" miles now.

turboDean

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This is the best option IMO... I have a runabout for work as well, Not only do u save on fuel costs but also reduce the amount the scooby has to been serviced and tyres will be cheaper etc on a runabout, and not putting high miles on the Scooby will help it retain some of it's value...

If u really want to be able to use the Scooby as a daily driver then i suppose LPG is a good option but u would have to keep the car for a reasonably long time and do high miles to make it viable...

Gigsy

When I did the maths, 18k miles is the point where you break even on the cost of conversion vs cheaper fuel.

Also you need to get a good conversion done which is going to cost around £2k so as mentioned above, may well work out to be cheaper to run a second car.

scooby1508

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The scooby is my everyday car I average in between 200 - 300 miles a week and I'm stating to use 60 - 70 quid a week in petrol. I have found a local company with a good rep who can supply and fit a kit for £795

Bungleaio

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Converting to LPG was the best thing I've done to my car, it's saving me loads. My MPG is about 1 lower than on petrol and the power is a bit lower but I'm paying around 70p a litre.

Depending on how many miles you do the quicker the payback will be. I'm doing on average 250 miles a week so LPG is making running my impreza a lot more viable. For example today I've done 440 miles and used 87 litres of LPG, so thats cost me £61.

To have done that on petrol I would have done it on less fuel maybe 75 litres, the average unleaded price around here according to www.petrolprices.com is 133 so it would have cost £100. So I've saved myself £39 today alone.

I still use petrol though as the LPG doesn't kick in until the car has warmed up a bit but thats only 10 mins or so. I've only put petrol in once so far this year though and I get about 2000 miles per tank of petrol.

My conversion cost £1600 and I don't think I'm that far away from a break even point but I am planning on keeping the car for a couple of years at least so it's definitely worth while for me.

As for the fuel duty going up I believe the government have to give three years notice of any large increases but I'm not sure to be honest, it's a lot greener fuel and its been around 50p a litre cheaper than petrol since I've been using it, admittedly thats only since last june.

evil.soup

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That sounds very cheap indeed!

chaffe

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i have a tank from the scrapyard for free, they cant get rid of them due to thier hazardous nature. also "front end kits" with everything else you need for the conversion can be had brand new for £300 on eBay, so for around 300 quid you could do it yourself, i started to lpg convert my last car but ended up selling it before it ran on lpg, although i removed all the stuff incase i want to lpg convert the scoob.

The Trooper 1815

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Too cheap!

Are they aware it's a Turbo Petrol car?

You need extra bit's to lube the valves will they be fitting it?

chaffe

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not nesesarily, and what difference does it make if it is turbo or not? all efi lpg systems are interchangable. as long as you size the injector jets big enough and have a big enough vapourizer for the application it makes no difference. The gas pressure, much like fuel pressure is regulated by manifold pressure and so is increased with boost and decreased with vacuum. And the lpg ecu is only varying the signal from the subaru ecu to account for and small discrepancys in the charecteristics of the gas injectors.
Get yourself a cheap tank, run a pipe to the front of the car, install the vapourizer and plug in the lpg loom, pipe up the injectors an hour with the laptop and your cooking on gas plus you can do it step by step so no need to have the car off the road for too long.

scooby1508

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cheers for the feedback guys here is a link for the site i got the price a little wrong. what do you guys thinkhttp://www.professautogas.co.uk/index.html

The Trooper 1815

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I'll be very interested to see how this goes.

beastgtir

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think at £795 it will be singlepoint.

a subaru would benefit more from a multi-point conversion (seperate ecu to control the injectors) which could then be mapped to throw more fuel when required ie on boost.

chaffe

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there is no chance of running a turbo car on single point, it will be very dangerous. Has to be an efi multipoint system. And that type of system, although mappable, is only for small tweaks, it actually "borrows" the injector signal from the subaru ecu, and so automatically enriches the afr upon increased load as per OE map. As said before brand new parts could be had for this conversion for £500-£600, so £800 is not unreasonabble fitted imo.

scooby1508

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Thank you very much for all your help guys but I think I my have to just get rid of the scooby I just can't afford to run it anymore any takers lol

fawor

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ask them www.professautogas.co.uk

scooby1508

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The car has an induction kit and been decatted and I have not had It mapped yet do you guys think by doing this first then an LPG conversion I will get my mpg a lot better cheers

Bungleaio

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You should be getting it remapped with those mods whether you LPG or not!

This is the place I had mine done http://www.autogassolutions.co.uk/ It's obviously a bit of a trip from you but they provide a courtesy car.

fawor

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remap it before. after convertion before set up lpg map ,they will run/race on petrol,next without switching ignition off-plug to lpg ecu and set up lpg map-base on petrol run.
later next runon lpg, if will be ok thats perfect i mean on all rev. from start to the red line.

Black-Hawk

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Is this a contradiction

chaffe

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no, i was refering to an EFI kit, as i said it makes no difference turbo or non turbo. HOWEVER a supply on demand kit would make a difference. but hey im no expert, just going on my experience, feel free to correct me

chaffe

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as said