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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Hi Just looking for some advice about remaps.
I have just had a full decat fitted to my 2002 wrx and understand to get the best from it I need to have the car remapped. Problem is the prices I have seen for these remaps. £550-£650 seem to be the norm. Are there any places in South Wales that can do them at a better price?
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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thats the going rate for a decent mapper using ecutek software, anyone else will be using freeware software. any cheaper and it could also possibly be a generic map which you def dont want
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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There are a number of mappers who I would consider using Bob Rawle, Jolly Green Monster and Andy Forrest.

I myself have used Bob Rawle who remapped my last Impreza and I am going to him in December to remap my S202.

Cheaper is not always best but there are two of us going to Bob shortly from the South Wales area so if you are interested I can approach him to see if he can do us a group deal.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Bob Rawle is only about 1hr 20mins from cardiff. for £650 you are buying the ecutek software licence and buying the mapping time/expertise and the 'experience' of mapping your car on the road with Bob.
Andrew - I'm in Cardiff and have owned two imprezas over the past 5 years and i would not let anyone locally go anywhere near my ecu!!

Tidgy - you've strayed quite a way from you normal haunt on dot org, this forum is a local shop for local people! - lol

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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by apac
Bob Rawle is only about 1hr 20mins from cardiff. for £650 you are buying the ecutek software licence and buying the mapping time/expertise and the 'experience' of mapping your car on the road with Bob.
Andrew - I'm in Cardiff and have owned two imprezas over the past 5 years and i would not let anyone locally go anywhere near my ecu!!

Tidgy - you've strayed quite a way from you normal haunt on dot org, this forum is a local shop for local people! - lol

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At least he didn't have to pay to come over the bridge
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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At least he didn't have to pay to come over the bridge
yeah, the magic of modern technology,,, hopefully it will help keep 'em all out
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Hi, Do you know what sort of money Bob charges or would charge if a few of us went up?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tomski2
Hi, Do you know what sort of money Bob charges or would charge if a few of us went up?
Andrew
I am emailing Bob shortly, so I will see what he can do for us.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by apac
Bob Rawle is only about 1hr 20mins from cardiff. for £650 you are buying the ecutek software licence and buying the mapping time/expertise and the 'experience' of mapping your car on the road with Bob.
Andrew - I'm in Cardiff and have owned two imprezas over the past 5 years and i would not let anyone locally go anywhere near my ecu!!

Tidgy - you've strayed quite a way from you normal haunt on dot org, this forum is a local shop for local people! - lol

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lol, im not quiet as much of a post ***** on here

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Don't discount Open Source remaps. Your EcuTek remap is only as good as the mapper that's doing it. It's also done on the road, and with equal care an attention when done correctly. Done properly by an experienced mapper an Open Source remap is as good as any EcuTek remap...FACT!!

Not to mention Open Source tuning doesn't lock out your ECU to anything other than Open Source unlike EcuTek. Open Source remaps are open to scrutiny by any mapper with any compatible newage remap software worldwide. Open Source remappers have nothing to hide so if you're an EcuTek dealer and you want to use my remap as your base map then as far as i'm concerned that's a compliment.

These are the facts!!

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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What is the cost of Open Source mapping?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobiewrx555
Don't discount Open Source remaps. Your EcuTek remap is only as good as the mapper that's doing it. It's also done on the road, and with equal care an attention when done correctly. Done properly by an experienced mapper an Open Source remap is as good as any EcuTek remap...FACT!!

Not to mention Open Source tuning doesn't lock out your ECU to anything other than Open Source unlike EcuTek. Open Source remaps are open to scrutiny by any mapper with any compatible newage remap software worldwide. Open Source remappers have nothing to hide so if you're an EcuTek dealer and you want to use my remap as your base map then as far as i'm concerned that's a compliment.

These are the facts!!

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With you on that, there are a lot of mappers out there who use both ECUTEK and open source it all depends what the end user wants in the end.
try www.open-mapping.co.uk they use open source and also have access to a ecutek mapper etc. One of the guys floats about the country a fair bit so you may be able to hook up with him.
Do a search on the net there are a lot of open-source places about ;-)
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Hi Thanks for the info, trouble is this is all way over my head now.
So from what I can work out an open map can do the same for my car as the ecutek, give or take 10/15bhp for £150 instead of £550-£650?
Cheers, Andrew
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
What is the cost of Open Source mapping?
Open Source remap will cost anything between £350-£450+VAT. If the tuner has to come out to you there will be a travel charge/cost to pay but even with that it still works out cheaper than EcuTek.

There are one or two mappers about providing a mobile service so they come to you, alternatively you can go to them. Have a look on eBay

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tomski2
Hi Thanks for the info, trouble is this is all way over my head now.
So from what I can work out an open map can do the same for my car as the ecutek, give or take 10/15bhp for £150 instead of £550-£650?
Cheers, Andrew
Yes, open source remapping is as good as EcuTek, remember it's purely down to the mapper, period!! It won't be give or take 10/15bhp, it doesn't work like that. Two identical mappers mapping the same car, one with Open Source and the other with EcuTek.....power output from both maps should be pretty damn close!!

If you're charged £150 for an open source remap....run away like the wind!! No self respecting open source mapper worth his salt would charge £150. If they do then go Ecutek instead because at £150 they won't know what they are doing!!
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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I have been in touch with Bob and he will do a group deal if we can get 3 people booked in for getting their cars mapped.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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If there was a space there could I come
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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If there was a space there could I come
You are more than welcome , below is a link to Bobs contact information and his website, I suggest that you contact him via e-mail as PM'ing him would add delays.

https://www.scoobynet.com/traders-co...elopments.html

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When you contact Bob give him your vehicle details, what modifications you have done/planned (or just state if the vehicle is standard with no modifications planned) and what level of performance you are aiming for, mention that you have been put onto him by Tyron with reference to a group deal.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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p.s. nobody seems to have pointed out that having a full decat on your wrx (I believe this version, a 2002, has 3 cats normally) is not really advisable without having it remapped at the same time.

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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What discount has Bob offered you Ty? I might be interested in this, going to need mine doing soon.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Just been in touch with Bob and booked mine in .
Thanks Tyrone for sortin the group buy.
Bob has come back with a great price.
Cheers Andrew
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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BOB all the way for me guys
the only mapper that i would let near my car
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by "Taylor"
What discount has Bob offered you Ty? I might be interested in this, going to need mine doing soon.
I am waiting for Bob to email me back Taylor, I will mention to him that we might now have 4 peeps - 3 definite 1 interested and see what he comes back with.

Originally Posted by tomski2
Just been in touch with Bob and booked mine in .
Thanks Tyrone for sortin the group buy.
Bob has come back with a great price.
Cheers Andrew
No problems glad to be of help.

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BOB all the way for me guys
the only mapper that i would let near my car
Same for me too.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Bob has been in touch and he can do a new Ecutek remap for £400 + vat inc licence which means at present it would be £460.00 which is quite a saving on the normal price of around £600 including VAT. Plus of course any further mapping sessions would be cheaper as you pay for the Ecutek licence in the cost of the first mapping.

If you already have an Ecutek map and licence on your car then obviously you would benefit from a lower charge for the mapping providing that you can obtain the licence/unlock code (if I remember correctly) from the previous mapper if not Bob.

There are 3 presently booked in for mapping myself, Rally Fan 555 and tomski2 - the mapping will be done in the Swindon area which is only around 1 hour (or less on the way back ) from Cardiff on the M4.

I would imagine he could travel to you but again please contact him to discuss travelling costs etc. or if enough are interested in the same area then please contact him to discuss.

Please contact Bob if you are interested and arrange dates with him directly, it looks like he has free slots on the 4th,5th,11th and 12th of December at present. You could arrange dates after this but remember that the VAT rate will go back up in 2010. He may well have dates before this but these are the dates he has given me for my mapping session.

He can obviously map Simtek, Motec etc. but please contact him directly for further information and costings.

I have started a list below of people below with interested/confirmed bookings.

1. Cannon Fodder confirmed
2. Rally Fan 555 confirmed
3. tomski2 confirmed

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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A question too which I would not mind some answers:

TBH honest I don't really have the time to run a GB and would prefer that people contact Bob directly and arrange dates and times etc. but who has run a GB and how much work did it involve?

I am more than happy to help people to obtain a good saving but I do not want it to take over my life either.
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I might just get in on this as i have a issue with surge and bob has been highly recomended as the person to see about it.
will send him an email and add my name to the list if all is well.
Good timing with this GB Ty
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I might just get in on this as i have a issue with surge and bob has been highly recomended as the person to see about it.
will send him an email and add my name to the list if all is well.
Good timing with this GB Ty
If anyone can sort it out for you it would be Bob , top man and he even put up with my driving.
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hi it might be a stupid question but can anyone tell me if you decat your new age and remap will it pass an mot ok or do you have to put it all back to standard
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Mine passes with just a 100cell sport cat in the downpipe, but not likely with no cats at all.
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I have now posted this offer/group buy in the Group Buy section of the Marketplace section of Scoobynet, please post any bookings up on that thread as per the link below.

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...group-buy.html
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