Unwanted compressor surge?
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Unwanted compressor surge?
I have owned my classic for around 5 weeks now, however, during the last week I have noticed that the car produces the compressor surge / flutter noise when changing gear at boost. Now while this sounds fantastic, I'm wary of the fact that the VF turbo's don't like compressor surge and I could be doing more harm than good by leaving it as it is. Would the STI8 recirc dump valve be playing up and not actually dumping the unwanted boost? Can I test the recirc DV at all?
I'm new to scoobs but comfortable with mechanics so am not afraid to get my hands dirty if need be.
The car has a VF34 turbo, STI8 TMIC, Bob Rawle remap and STI8 Recirc DV plus the usual 3 port, Walbro, sports cat downpipe and HKS exhaust. It's running around 1.5 boost at peak according to my gauge.
I'm new to scoobs but comfortable with mechanics so am not afraid to get my hands dirty if need be.
The car has a VF34 turbo, STI8 TMIC, Bob Rawle remap and STI8 Recirc DV plus the usual 3 port, Walbro, sports cat downpipe and HKS exhaust. It's running around 1.5 boost at peak according to my gauge.
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The Vf34 is supposed to be one of the stronger more reliable of the VF series, mine always made the fluttering noise even with a VTA valve.
Really wouldn't worry about it myself.
My new turbo is a lot more noisey than the VF34
Really wouldn't worry about it myself.
My new turbo is a lot more noisey than the VF34
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has it got an induction kit on it ? as when you have a bigger turbo and map ect... this can give the flutter noise as its running alot more boost than normal 1.5 bar of boost seems a good bit of boost, would not like to run anymore boost than that tho as if it has not been forged ect., it could give you problems in the long run depending how its used tho
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has it got an induction kit on it ? as when you have a bigger turbo and map ect... this can give the flutter noise as its running alot more boost than normal 1.5 bar of boost seems a good bit of boost, would not like to run anymore boost than that tho as if it has not been forged ect., it could give you problems in the long run depending how its used tho
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has it got an induction kit on it ? as when you have a bigger turbo and map ect... this can give the flutter noise as its running alot more boost than normal 1.5 bar of boost seems a good bit of boost, would not like to run anymore boost than that tho as if it has not been forged ect., it could give you problems in the long run depending how its used tho
I drive the car resonably sensibly for a 38 year old (yeh I know I'm too old for an Impreza), only enjoying the acceleration now and again when it's safe to do so. I don't rev the guts out of the car but it's taken me some time to get used to just how fast the revs rise (due to the lightened flywheel no doubt).
Just wanted to make sure everything is as it should be really as I don't fancy any large bills in the current climate.
Thanks for the advice
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Is it actually surging ? IE hesitating and being a bit misfire-y? Or is it just a noise.
The late series VF's are ok to run even without a dump valve and make a superb noise when compressor stall sets in on closed throttle. No need to worry about the turbo in that respect.
It is the older pre VF30's that I worry about in that situation.
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The late series VF's are ok to run even without a dump valve and make a superb noise when compressor stall sets in on closed throttle. No need to worry about the turbo in that respect.
It is the older pre VF30's that I worry about in that situation.
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My initial post was relating to the noise to be honest but the car does hesitate a little when cold. For example, it doesn't feel smooth if holding constant revs in 3rd for instance. Not too bad, just not as sweet as it runs when warm. I've put this down to the fact that the car is far from standard and needs to be nice and warm for the map & mods to work efficiently.
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Bloody hooligans !
Next you'll be wearing Burberry..............
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Now we know why Kev got rid of the plastic thing - he was missing the 'flutter ' Poor lamb
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We're all good thanks Kev, Nathan says hi!
Big Daz called an a few weeks ago lookin' at cars. Gave him a quick road test and off he went muttering about nutters up this part of the world.
You have to demonstrate a cars true potential no point otherwise.
See ya sometime. Butties as ever on a Saturday.
David and all
Big Daz called an a few weeks ago lookin' at cars. Gave him a quick road test and off he went muttering about nutters up this part of the world.
You have to demonstrate a cars true potential no point otherwise.
See ya sometime. Butties as ever on a Saturday.
David and all
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We're all good thanks Kev, Nathan says hi!
Big Daz called an a few weeks ago lookin' at cars. Gave him a quick road test and off he went muttering about nutters up this part of the world.
You have to demonstrate a cars true potential no point otherwise.
See ya sometime. Butties as ever on a Saturday.
David and all
Big Daz called an a few weeks ago lookin' at cars. Gave him a quick road test and off he went muttering about nutters up this part of the world.
You have to demonstrate a cars true potential no point otherwise.
See ya sometime. Butties as ever on a Saturday.
David and all
Will be speaking soon David, need to get the car in for an oil change, not that it's done much mileage since the last time
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