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Old 03 June 2007, 09:08 PM
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Hi Guys, Just had my RA back today after an engine rebuild and my wallet over 5K lighter.. One thing that I would like to get checked out before I start piling on the miles to run it in is, Where in South Wales can I get the Fuel air mixture checked? Nearly everything is new but as it melted a piston, I would just like to make sure that there is nothing strange going on with the brain.
Anyone know somewhere where I can just pop in, plug it in to something and re assure me that all is fine. I don't want a re map as it's quick enough, also as its running in it can't go on a rolling road under stress.
Old 03 June 2007, 09:17 PM
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Hi Mate,

A Remap is not just for the extra power but also to allow your car to run on UK fuel, depending on the year you be better off getting a remap otherwise you could possibly be back for another rebuild if not sorted properly.
Old 03 June 2007, 09:40 PM
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It's a 99 STI RA. Version 5, V limited.. I always run V power. Also I,m now using Octane booster just to make sure. I only had it a few weeks before it went. I don't know what fuel the previous owner used though.
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As its a MY99, has it had a remap already or is it still using the base map from Japan.
Old 03 June 2007, 09:55 PM
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I really don't know, and that's the problem.
Old 03 June 2007, 10:07 PM
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If it was me, I'd get another remap for my own piece of mind. You'll then know its mapped for UK fuel, and its mapped to run how you want the car to run.

For the MY99 I'd go down the ECUTek route and with most of the local guys who has had this done they will tell you the best place to go to and other reasons for why the ECUtek is good more than what I could tell you.
Old 03 June 2007, 10:10 PM
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Thanks Mat. Can I get it while it's being run in though?
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You'd be best speaking to Bob Rawle, acouple of the guys on hear has had a remap by him and have been very please with the results.

He could advise you best.

This is his website

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Simon aka Jolly green monster also does Ecutek remaps and is based in south east, but he will travel to south Wales to carry out remaps. As your probably already doing is just make sure when bedding the new bearings/seals in, keep the revs down and avoid running the engine on full boost to avoid any detonation before having the car mapped.
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Old 04 June 2007, 09:34 AM
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Thanks, I am driving "very" gently at the moment.
Bob Rawle won't re map it as it's been rebuilt, not until about 3K miles.
As I said I am using Octane boost at the moment in case it has'nt been remapped for UK, but I think I will get it mapped as soon as it's run in.
Problem is who. I haven't heard of Jolly Green Monster, has he got a good rep.
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£5K on a rebuild, I assume you got uprated for that. who did the rebuild, shouldn't the AFM been checked by who ever did the rebuild????

A Remap doesn't just give a power increase, the power delivery will also be smoother, you normally see better MPG's and of course it will be safer to run on Uk fuels. I know if i'd of just spent £5k on a rebuild I want be wanting a remap ASAP
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Can't see any tidy mapper, re-mapping the car till it is run in, if i were you i'd drive off boost/very low boost for a 1000 miles, get the oil changed etc, then have the re-mapped.
Bob Rawle or Andy F would be my choice mappers.

ACE Motorsport would probably be able to check the fueling for you with a wide band lambda.
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As dean has said, it shouldn't be remapped until after it's run in, I think API suggest 1600 miles after one of there rebuilds.

But it would be the first thing I would do once it's run in.
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The parts alone came to over 4K. I added a lightened flywheel and a straight through downpipe. All parts came from Roger clarke motorsport. New heads also. Those alone were about £1080. I have a very large list of parts. I will definately get it re mapped but someone I spoke to today suggested popping to hi line just to set up the air fuel mixture. Any comments on Hi line. I'm really nervous driving it now in case it goes again, but I am taking it easy.
I did'nt skimp on any parts at all. In fact could have gone further. It is practically a new engine.
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Wouldn't touch Hyeline with a barge pole, i had a bad experience with them and know of lots of other people that have aswell, they really haven't got a very good rep.
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I have rung Ace a few times, and rung his mobile but no answer.
Every time I ring I speak to a young guy who does'nt seem to know what I mean when I ask if they can just check that it's fuelling properly (Air Fuel).
I thought it would be simple for someone to do, but seem to be getting no where. There must be someone in S.Wales that could check it . I can then happily run it in and then get it remapped.
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Originally Posted by DAZZY J
I have rung Ace a few times, and rung his mobile but no answer.
Every time I ring I speak to a young guy who does'nt seem to know what I mean when I ask if they can just check that it's fuelling properly (Air Fuel).
Keep trying, Andy is very busy and can be hard to get hold of, best to ring his mobile and leave a message, he will then normally ring back. He works til 9pm some nights .

Wouldn't worry to much about the fueling if your driving off boost (running in), if you haven't change the injector size or turbo or anything major the fueling should be pretty close to standard.
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Thanks Dean I'll try Andy again a few times tomorrow. Fingers crossed
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Hi,

Agree with not mapping it fully until run in.

I tend to put a run in map on. . ie. check fuelling is correct and set the rev limit and boost to what is specc'd by owner or engine builder and then do a proper remap once run in.

Assuming you are still running the original injectors and not larger ones then running it in on the standard ecu and map will be fine.
I would however on a 99 replaced the MAF sensor.. they often fail and if you haven't already found the cause of the melted piston I would replace the MAF sensor ASAP.

I often meet people from South Wales in Bristol just off the M4/M5.. was there mapping an STi6 RA V-Limited from Wales this afternoon

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Thanks Simon,
MAF sensor is replaced, Oxygen sensor is replaced, along with about 2, A4 pages of parts. It's easier to list what is not replaced. All original spec except pistons which are Omega. Lightened fly & straight through downpipe are only improvements from standard. Can't wait to get it run in then see what it goes like after map. 250 miles done 750 to go.
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excellent... sounds like you have the parts replacements covered then
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hope all goes well fella
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Good luck with the rebuild.
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