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Old 09 September 2002, 09:39 PM
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Anyone got any idea on what tolerance these vans operate at?

I know the ones in Dyfed Powys are set at 40 in a 30mph area.

Reason I ask is that I was sitting at just below 80 near Bridgend on Saturday morning (definately around 78 I reckon) and came over a brow and there it was.....sitting on a bridge.

My Bel Euro 550 didn't even flinch...no beeps, nothing (I know that detectors give little prior warning for laser but surely if I was lasered directly it would have beeped???)

What do ya reckon guys?

Dave
Old 09 September 2002, 10:56 PM
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Dave
someone I know(no names)recently got a ticket for 85mph
I was doing 80mph sat. afternoon when I spotted the same van
fingers crossed eh !!

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Old 10 September 2002, 08:41 AM
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Is this the van on the bridge after Junction 33?

If so it nearly caused a big pile up last friday.
Big Merc slammed on brakes and cars had to serve to avoid it.

So much for making our roads safer?
Old 11 September 2002, 04:17 PM
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The ones operating on the A40/A449 near Newport are set very low. I know of 4 people at work who have been caught by this van (me included, doh!). On the 70 mph sections we've had people done for, so far, 81, 83, 86mph, as well as me getting collared in the roadworks up near Abergavenny, having pulled out in front of the static camera and accelerated because of traffic, only to meet the camera van 100m up the road facing back towards the static camera. A tad unfair I feel, but hey ho.

This is a dark maroon, high top new shape Transit with black rear windows, the driver's side of which drops down. It's normally parked in the lay-by's approaching the M4 near Newport and the lay-bys towards Monmouth near to Usk. The same van, plus a Peugeot Boxer type have also been seen on the roadworks on the A465 near to Tredegar (40mph limit).

Watch out chaps (and chapesses)
Old 12 September 2002, 12:43 AM
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I think you probably got away with it.

I've been lasered twice and both times my bel550 went off 400-500yds away.

So far so good with the Bel - no tickets in 18 months

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Old 12 September 2002, 03:35 PM
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Rich,

I had a chat with the guy in radar direct where I buy my gadgets from, and he said basically the same as you.

They independently test all the units they sell before stocking them and the 550 never failed to pick up a laser signal....his words " if it didn't beep he didn't target you". I've got his name and telephone no. so I'll hold him to that

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Old 12 September 2002, 04:08 PM
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Dave-W

Radar direct? You wouldn't happen to have a number for them would you? I think a detector is becoming a 'must have' rather than a bit pricey. Chap at work reckons he got camera'd 3 times yesterday, twice on the M4 and once near Ogmore....

Thanks.

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Old 13 September 2002, 09:59 AM
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My sister got done there not long ago for 81 mph no other person in site at 8 pm at night blody gits.

Why dont they case real crim's drug dealers and blody car thieves not some one doing under a ton on the motorway.
Old 14 September 2002, 03:44 PM
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Cheers Dar.

After you called round I drove to Gatwick through the early hours.

Tired and lost - flashed by a bloody Gatso !!

Whoops!

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Old 25 September 2002, 12:24 PM
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Talking about cameras, anyone know of any unmarked cop cars that generally travel between j34 and j46 M4? On a number of occasions i have been zapped constantly (checking the speed im doing) between these juctions and its getting a tad annoying.
Old 05 October 2002, 07:27 PM
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i saw one this week under a tree just past the new westbury site in chepstow before the roundabout , looked a bit hidden(naugthy)and one on chepstow road in caldicot by the tippling at 7.45am! when im on the way to work last month,give them a wave it must be boring
Old 15 October 2002, 02:22 PM
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Our company car has a "notice of offence" outstanding for the A449 they claim its an automatic camera device that takes the picture but obviously there are police in the van or car whatever so are these any good ? I mean do they show a clear picture ? as I am waiting for it to come back to find out who it was driving.


[Edited by scrappy_doo - 10/15/2002 2:23:27 PM]

[Edited by scrappy_doo - 10/15/2002 2:25:58 PM]
Old 15 October 2002, 02:41 PM
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How many miles over the limit were you? ... I guess you will have to wait for the picture so that they can prove who was driving. If they can't prove who was driving you might get away with it.

They are getting sneakier these days, I generally go home via Blackmill (Sarn Services turn off) and there were two cops on bikes hiding behind a bush with speed guns!

[Edited by JCSTI - 10/15/2002 2:43:25 PM]
Old 15 October 2002, 02:50 PM
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We haven't a clue who was driving as the car is a "pool" car so everyone drives it ! so if this picture is not clear then we can't find out who it is at all. So we will just have to carry on with court or fine what ever they see fit although there is no law stating that you must keep a record by day or time of who is driving the vehicle so we may get lucky and just have a fine.
Who knows will post on here the outcome i.e what the picture quality is like and the sentence.
Old 15 October 2002, 05:33 PM
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Guys

Thanks to those damn vans on the M4, I've just invested in the Bel 550 plus the LC110 Laser Jammer just in case the 550 lets me down.

CVC fitted the jammer for me last Friday, and I must say they did a great job. It's very discreet and will fire a 5 second laser blast back to diffuse the reading. Giving you enough time to reduce your speed.

I say fight laser with laser. And if I get stopped it's a garage door opener.

Nils
Old 15 October 2002, 06:26 PM
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Those Laser Jammers are quite expensive though arnt they? Where did you get the LC110 Laser Jammer from?

I will probably pick one up though to go along with my two other speed dectors.

Shame you cant get something that would fire rockets or something!

Old 15 October 2002, 10:22 PM
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I bought the jammer from the following :

http://www.beldirect.co.uk/lrc-100.htm

It's the best out there at the moment, and the only model to use the same laser diode as the police guns. Be careful of other makes that use cheaper diodes and omit a weaker signal.

It isn't cheap, but still probably cheaper than the amount my insurance premium would go up by if I get caught !!

It's sods law that since having it fitted last Friday - have I seen a van or policeman with a gun ??!!

I'll let you know how I get on the first time it 'goes off'.

Cheers

Nils

[Edited by 5903 - 10/15/2002 10:37:52 PM]
Old 15 October 2002, 10:28 PM
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It seems around S.Wales a laser jammer is almost essential.
I use a Valentine 1, excellent detector but obviously not much use against laser, although on the number of times I've been targeted it has allowed me to check my speed instantly and ensure I don't have 14 sleepless nights waiting for the NIP to arrive.

One the boys I know uses a V1 and a K40 laser diffuser from Networx Automotive and swears by them both.

So far I've been lucky but resigned to the fact it's probably only a matter of time!

Gareth
Old 15 October 2002, 11:30 PM
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Yep, I got caught about 3 months ago in the roadworks on the A40 near Abergavenny (a nice welcome to Wales that was!), first time in 5 years, bit pissed off. Then almost got done 4 weeks ago near Monmouth but hopefully anchored up before it got me.

I lived in Northampton before coming here 4 months ago and thought the camera vans were bad over there, but they ain't a patch on the South Wales dibbles.

Radar detectors are a necessity over here I think.
Old 16 October 2002, 01:50 AM
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Mike,

Anywhere along the M50/A449 is Copper proving grounds, I was cauught for doing 109Mph, and that was because I was slowing down due to my Laser sensor having a fit!

Be careful!




Old 16 October 2002, 08:23 AM
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Thanks for the LRC 100 Laser Jammer link. Price insn't as bad as i thought, I have seen some twice as expensive!.

The other favourite camera spot is on the a bridge just before you get to J38 (port talbot) on the M4.

Cant have no fun these days!

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