Gc8 prodrive bilsteins or coilovers
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Gc8 prodrive bilsteins or coilovers
Right guys I've got a sti type ra, that's still in standard suspension, if I'm honest it's all about noisy. So I'm looking for a change. I have been offered a set of prodrive bilsteins, same as what I had on my wr sport years ago and they were great. Now there not cheap and once coupled with some springs I think the set up will be near the £550 mark. Now a set bc's arnt much more so I'm in two minds what to do. My cars is for fast road, I like to get to the ring at least once a year. Amongst this I will be doing a full refresh, bush's the lot. So if anyone could give me some advice that would be great.
Regards joe cross
Regards joe cross
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I've Bilsteins on my Type R and have to say I fecking love them,absolutely fantastic on the poor quality roads we have and if you're only going to do a couple of trackdays (albeit on a very demanding track) I would stick with the Bilsteins.
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...ension-gc.html has the suspension mods (and costs) I did at the same time.
I can't hesitate to say how much improvement the steering rack bush makes to the feel of the steering.
Next up is ARBs (22F,24R seems to be popular) and an ALK.
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...ension-gc.html has the suspension mods (and costs) I did at the same time.
I can't hesitate to say how much improvement the steering rack bush makes to the feel of the steering.
Next up is ARBs (22F,24R seems to be popular) and an ALK.
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For road use, it's got to be fixed perch and the longest travel you can take the looks of IYWIM
Here's some reading for you though on the Bilsteins
Here's some reading for you though on the Bilsteins
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The 'only' spring to fit on a classic is the P1 spring. It has a sweet spot of poundage & progression and will make mincemeat of everything a UK rough B-Road can throw at it.
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
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The 'only' spring to fit on a classic is the P1 spring. It has a sweet spot of poundage & progression and will make mincemeat of everything a UK rough B-Road can throw at it.
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
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coilovers are over rated, if your not gonna change the settings (aka use it for different track setups) then dont bother with them, get some decent shocks (some do have damp adjustment as well anyway) and lowering springs
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Post #42 on.... They'll cost ya £1300
Buying brand new struts can be an expensive hobby - I know. Why the need to buy new?
Buying brand new struts can be an expensive hobby - I know. Why the need to buy new?
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The 'only' spring to fit on a classic is the P1 spring. It has a sweet spot of poundage & progression and will make mincemeat of everything a UK rough B-Road can throw at it.
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
The Eibach is too soft, I don't like its progression and it over-lowers. Ride will be crashy, bouncy and you will loose most of the beautiful Bilstein damper travel. STi springs are better than Eibachs, although a bit hard
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It comes down to what Eibach spring we are all talking about.
An example,Eibach made the springs which were developed for the P1, so a 'P1' spring really is an Eibach spring.
BUT the readily available Eibach springs now, eg Pro Kit lowering springs are just awful. Those are the soft, crashy over-lowering ones to avoid, if you want performance that is
You can pair a damper with any spring, but certain ones work better than others, and on the Impreza it was the Bilstein/P1 spring which featured on the WR P1 (the P1 Prodrive wanted to sell) which was the set-up Mr Steven's et al always wanted the UK honed Impreza to run, but the KYB reds were the cheaper option so that's what the P1 ended up with
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Has anyone had experience of the KYB struts that are available plus you can get then in an adjustable form, if I needed new on mine I think I would be tempted down that route with a nice set of springs.
I also had the BC coilovers fitted on my new age and have to say I really liked the ride they gave and they were fitted with the softer spring but the new age was a heavy car, I'm not sure how a lightweight RA would respond with them fitted?
I also had the BC coilovers fitted on my new age and have to say I really liked the ride they gave and they were fitted with the softer spring but the new age was a heavy car, I'm not sure how a lightweight RA would respond with them fitted?
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Second option is have look for used Bilstein,sometimes you can find them on eBay or other forums
Or you can have look on the Tokico,they're massively popular in USA and they're have good reviews
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Has anyone had experience of the KYB struts that are available plus you can get then in an adjustable form, if I needed new on mine I think I would be tempted down that route with a nice set of springs.
I also had the BC coilovers fitted on my new age and have to say I really liked the ride they gave and they were fitted with the softer spring but the new age was a heavy car, I'm not sure how a lightweight RA would respond with them fitted?
I also had the BC coilovers fitted on my new age and have to say I really liked the ride they gave and they were fitted with the softer spring but the new age was a heavy car, I'm not sure how a lightweight RA would respond with them fitted?
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The main differences between the KYB's is their design - the 'Reds' are a high pressure inverted monotube and the AGX an adjustable twin tube. The inverted monotube is generally considered the superior design/performer and of course is reflected in the price
Generally speaking the twin tube will be more supple over small bumps than the high pressure monotube which can feel a bit nuggety on small bump compliance. With speed and warmth in the damper oil, the monotube is a decent performer with good control. It's only when you try something like the Bilsteins which have better valving and small bump compliance you see the KYB shortcomings, but the KYB is a good performer
The AGX rebound adjustment reduces its control somewhat when warm
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The main differences between the KYB's is their design - the 'Reds' are a high pressure inverted monotube and the AGX an adjustable twin tube. The inverted monotube is generally considered the superior design/performer and of course is reflected in the price
Generally speaking the twin tube will be more supple over small bumps than the high pressure monotube which can feel a bit nuggety on small bump compliance. With speed and warmth in the damper oil, the monotube is a decent performer with good control. It's only when you try something like the Bilsteins which have better valving and small bump compliance you see the KYB shortcomings, but the KYB is a good performer
The AGX rebound adjustment reduces its control somewhat when warm