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Old 08 May 2010, 03:07 PM
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Hello,

I've just bought a second hand set of Tein Super Street coilovers and would like as much information as possible about how to get the best performance out of them. My main driving is fast road with the odd track day here and there.

So far the car has whiteline ARBS, ALK and is poly bushed.

This is how the adjustable top mounts are set at the moment.



I'm a bit concerned that they are basically all the way one way. Is that right or should they be more central?

Also I plan to get the car properly set up after fitting with the allignment done and corner weighting.

Can I opt for a fast road allignment set up? I've heard of people giving the person doing the allignment 'Prodrive set up' figures. Does anyone recommend a good set up for my use?

Many thanks,

Giles
Old 09 May 2010, 03:11 PM
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Tein suggest 330mm ride height ( arch to centre of wheel ). See Tein UK web-site.

You have to decide how hard they are set to suit you.... and the roads/pot-holes near you.

Many Subaru specialists will know of "better" settings than the so called Prodrive settings, especially if you use the car on track.

Corner weighting isn't worth doing IMHO as they don't have separate ride height adjustment ( BC coilovers do ! ).

HTH

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Thanks for the reply Dunx,

I'll have a little look on the Tein site.

Yeah the roads are pretty ****ty down this way but I'm not too bothered about the drive quality as it's only going to come out a couple of tiems a week.

I was under the impression that to get the coilovers set up properly you stick each corner on some scales to give you the weight and then adjust each height platform until you have an even cross weight?

Why wouldn't that be possible on my suspension? After all you can adjust each one.

Once again thank you for your time.
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you'd then have diffent heights on all corners :S

Have a look at the likes of the TEIN RS Circuit Master. They have two methods of adjusting the height, 1 is basically a pre-load. You can adjust it and the normal 'height' one to get what your after.

Yours are just basic 'fast road' coilovers.
Old 13 May 2010, 05:08 PM
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like these....

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Originally Posted by Adam Kindness
you'd then have diffent heights on all corners :S
I thought that was the point. Then with the differing weights on each corner the car would sit dead level?

Man, I'm proper confused now.
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you can, but you may end up not getting the readings your after without upsetting the front / rear balance
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You'd need the Mono-Flex at +£500 to be able to corner weight your car...

The pre-load/ride height adjusters let you alter the ride height BUT also alter the dampers "feel" on the road, dropped mine just bounced off every bump in the road.... so lifted it 30 mm and it takes bumps much better.

I suggest following the Tein set-up initially, then play with it.

IMHO.

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Ok I think I'm understanding this a little better now.

Although it kind of makes coilovers without pre-load adjustment a bit Sh1te!
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A bit cheaper, and how many drivers are good enough to feel a few pounds difference at one corner. I don't notice any adverse effects carrying a passenger myself....

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Old 26 May 2010, 01:28 PM
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Sorry to hijack this thread but...

Dunx - you say that Tein suggest 330mm height, is this the same front and back ? I have the workshop manual for 03STI and the standard height is different front / back 386F, 366B I thought that this was because the front arch is higher to allow the front wheels to steer. Thus at these measurements the car is level. I know that you can set it to what you like really. But is it better to have the car level or nose down and how would this alter the handling ? Also you say that you lifted your car 30mm from initial drop - just out of interest what is your current ride height front and back ?

I'm only asking cos i'm also in the middle of setting my BC's after getting the new rear springs+OEM top mount. (which lifted the rear of my car 15mm).

I have seen on other threads on here that ideal height would be 350F 340R.

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He has a classic - you need to check out the Tein UK web-site...

The PDF files are all there !

Mine is about 345mm F & 340mm R, looks standardish ( I like that ! )

HTH

dunx

P.S. Been away all week, sorry it's late !
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