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Old 30 May 2007, 10:41 AM
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Liverpool fan to sue Uefa over Athens chaos | Liverpool | Premiership | Football | Sport | Telegraph

Am not denying that supporters were to blame for what happened, just that there is a collective responsibility when it comes to events like this.

Hope he takes UEFA to the cleaners.
Old 30 May 2007, 10:45 AM
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Quite laughable.
Old 30 May 2007, 11:01 AM
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you're right, Platini is an outright joke, bring back that big fat guy, lennart or whatever he was called.
Old 30 May 2007, 09:46 PM
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I guess it's the Liverpool way.
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Liverpool fans requiring even more justice
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Originally Posted by 555 Markus
Liverpool fans requiring even more justice
i take it you would get $hit on and just take would you

or would you want justice
Old 30 May 2007, 10:53 PM
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aye, would not be saying that if it had happened to him. so much hatred against england's most decorated club (still)
Old 30 May 2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ash1
aye, would not be saying that if it had happened to him. so much hatred against england's most decorated club (still)
No hatred ash,Uefa are not too blame,the police are not too blame,Liverpool fans are too blame.
Old 30 May 2007, 11:34 PM
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o, o , o
Old 31 May 2007, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 56blacksti
i take it you would get $hit on and just take would you
Liverpool fans would know all about that, afterall they enjoyed taking a **** and throwing it on opposing supporters at Anfield last season.

Classy
Old 31 May 2007, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by richie001
No hatred ash,Uefa are not too blame,the police are not too blame,Liverpool fans are too blame.
UEFA as guilty as what you are to the English language.....
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Liverpool fans would know all about that, afterall they enjoyed taking a **** and throwing it on opposing supporters at Anfield last season.

Classy
Is that the best you can do ?

Pity you dont know about the history between the two clubs eh? 100 fans locked in at OT and given the beating of their lives.

What goes around comes around and a bit of **** on your head is nothing compared to taking a kicking.

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So the laughable concept of a Liverpool fan taking UEFA to court because tens of thousands of fellow "fans" stormed the ground (you think they'd know better after Hillsborough) has turned into a free for all!!

On topic, minus the official 17000 Liverpools "fans" the rest were a disgrace on that day spoiling it for those who had real tickets bought through official channels. I cannot understand how UEFA can be blames for the appalling selfish actions of the thousands of others.

The ground and policing would have been more than adequate had the other 33000 idiots not turned up and spoiled the party...

Liverpool fans need to sue themselves...
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thanks for your biased opinion.

think you need think about collective responsbility here rather than just pointing blame at the fans. UEFA have an obligation as well as the individuals that were there.
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Digger: Premier League braced for Tevez fallout | Columnists | Guardian Unlimited Football

Final paragraph:

Uefa's investigation into the Champions League final ticket fiasco is unlikely to contain encouraging news for Liverpool supporters nursing a sense of grievance. The European governing body has gathered evidence from British police highlighting more than 20 violent incidents involving Liverpool fans in the last four years, details of which will be included in a dossier that will be passed to the sports minister, Richard Caborn, next week.

Now there's a surprise.
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Originally Posted by ash1
thanks for your biased opinion.

think you need think about collective responsbility here rather than just pointing blame at the fans. UEFA have an obligation as well as the individuals that were there.
So initially you wanted UEFA taken to the cleaners, now it's collective responsibility?
So what should this poor hard done to fan do now? There are two options:
1) Sue UEFA, the greek police, and every LFC fan without a proper ticket or
2) Stop moaning

Oh and my opinion (to which you are more than welcome) is no more biased than your own

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Old 31 May 2007, 04:19 PM
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I would welcome your opinion if it contained any substance of value. Think you need to re-read the article. Genuine fan who's denied entry due to UEFA mis-management of an event. If you read the guy in question he is pretty honest in his statement:

"While unsavoury elements of the Liverpool fans must take responsibility for their actions, so must Uefa take responsibility for its shortcomings."

Its down to UEFA to ensure controls are in place as well as individuals to remain ethical. Its clear no controls were in place.

You might also want to read my first post on this thread.
Old 31 May 2007, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Liverpool fans would know all about that, afterall they enjoyed taking a **** and throwing it on opposing supporters at Anfield last season.

Classy


what rubbish now you're talking $hite
Old 31 May 2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 56blacksti
what rubbish now you're talking $hite
So it didn't happen then ??
Old 01 June 2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ash1
I would welcome your opinion if it contained any substance of value. Think you need to re-read the article. Genuine fan who's denied entry due to UEFA mis-management of an event. If you read the guy in question he is pretty honest in his statement:

"While unsavoury elements of the Liverpool fans must take responsibility for their actions, so must Uefa take responsibility for its shortcomings."

Its down to UEFA to ensure controls are in place as well as individuals to remain ethical. Its clear no controls were in place.

You might also want to read my first post on this thread.
Good point well made bar the ***** up of a first sentance. Legally you might be right - Liverpudlians know the legal system better than most (teehee) but morally it is obscene that this genuine fan is only going to seek recompense from 1 of the 2 guilty parties and little wonder Liverpool fans are branded as always having to blame someone (else).

As for your opening post and me reading it - If I had been paying more attention I admit I would have reworded my previous post... I wont say to what though

Ad for throwing poo? I heard it happened from a reliable source away from SN (who went) but then it could just be an urban legend... If I dig around google enough I might find the photos from the damage the bindippers did to OT not so long ago...

HUMPH

Have a good weekend! Come on Englerand...
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whats your favourite beer ? brand of bitter it is ?

you're full **** fella, suggest you focus on your own recent problems which is being involved in three televised issues of violence this CL league year.

you're better watching brazil game as you know sweet FA about the history between liverpool and Scum fans. Like I said, 100 fans locked in for a beating. Compare that to someone being crapped on. Get some perspective.
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Originally Posted by ash1
whats your favourite beer ? brand of bitter it is ?


Get your own material

I was using that line on you 3-4 years ago
Old 02 June 2007, 09:14 AM
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fair enough, cant argue with rest of what i said though.....
Old 02 June 2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ash1
fair enough, cant argue with rest of what i said though.....
I don't know if the remainder of your post is aimed at me or abdabz, I'm well aware of the history of the two clubs , one of my 1st memories was seeing a Utd fan at Anfield with a dart embedded in his forehead way back in 76 I think.
As for the poo throwing it was not an urban myth, 56blacksti do yourself a favour and google search Ged Poynton's apology letter that was published in most of the Sundays, it was only lasy year, the same match when they bricked and tried to turn over Alan Smith's Ambulance, or is Mr Poynton a mythical figure also ?

"I am ashamed to admit in one case excrement was thrown. How low can you get? We did what we could, we tried to brush people down and compensate those involved."
But as you say it's rubbish

Abdabz - BexTait posted the pics some time back
https://www.scoobynet.com/sports-35/...nk-you-ot.html
Old 02 June 2007, 02:41 PM
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dont know why you are turning this thread into something that happened last year. Knew the ambulance stuff was just round the corner.
Old 03 June 2007, 10:18 AM
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ash you simply cannot defend the actions of the scum that follows your team

Liverpool fans have been condemned as the worst in Europe in a scathing Uefa report, following violent scenes at the recent Champions League final against AC Milan (News of the World).
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source? oh NOTW. that your sunday paper ?

cant see how we're the worse when ManUre Scum involved in 3 acts of violence in Europe this season alone. Get your own house right before you start having a go at others.
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