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Old 01 July 2004, 01:36 AM
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....will England claim they really won the competition, as England were the ones who who should have progessed instead of Portugal?

...forgive my thoughts, but just speculating on the nonsense we'll hear coming out of John Motson's mouth come Sunday's final
Old 01 July 2004, 01:43 AM
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England would have won it, only an act of god would have stopped us; well, I say an act of god, or a perfectly good goal that's dissalowed would do quite the same!

England are the real champs of Europe, the last 4-2 was no competition.

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Old 01 July 2004, 01:48 AM
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So if England are the real champs, why is it that they last won a trophy an incredible 38 years ago

Surely "champion" teams win more often????

PS I'll disregard your comments on the referee. He was doing his job. It hardly warrants death threats, mistake or not.
Old 01 July 2004, 01:50 AM
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I must have missed this perfectly good goal. Gutted we went out but the ref was right. (Bugger)

I don't want Portugal to win though, I think they've had enough luck as it is.
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What ability? We need to pass more and be more defensive. Maybe you should play for England Audi-boy as you always seem to be on the defense.
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Ian Wright said that he wanted them to win purely for that reason !
Old 01 July 2004, 07:40 AM
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When do the World Cup qualifiers start?
Old 01 July 2004, 08:08 AM
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I'll put my hand up to the RTM re Audiboys death threats and swearing.
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Done now C
Old 01 July 2004, 08:37 AM
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As did I, how many more times though?
Old 01 July 2004, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
....will England claim they really won the competition, as England were the ones who who should have progessed instead of Portugal?

...forgive my thoughts, but just speculating on the nonsense we'll hear coming out of John Motson's mouth come Sunday's final

You mean the way Scotland claimed to be world champions when they beat the current world champions in 1967?
Old 01 July 2004, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
just speculating on the nonsense we'll hear coming out of John Motson's mouth
Don't get me started! Motson and the ITV commentator Clive Tyldesley are both awful. I just want them to call the game, the pundits can give us their opinions (for what they're worth ) at half/full time!

If you actually listen to what they say (I try and shut it out ) it's just banal crap, spewing forth in an over-excited rant.

They should both take a lesson from Martin Tyler on Sky.
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Originally Posted by imlach
So if England are the real champs, why is it that they last won a trophy an incredible 38 years ago

Surely "champion" teams win more often????

PS I'll disregard your comments on the referee. He was doing his job. It hardly warrants death threats, mistake or not.
So you don't subscribe to the 1967 Scottish World Champions theory then?
Old 01 July 2004, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
....will England claim they really won the competition, as England were the ones who who should have progessed instead of Portugal?

...forgive my thoughts, but just speculating on the nonsense we'll hear coming out of John Motson's mouth come Sunday's final
I think you'll find that whilst dissapointed, most England fans have gotten over it. About time you did isn't it?
Old 01 July 2004, 03:15 PM
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I think it's rigged for portugal to win - I quite fancy putting a bet on that greece will beat the czechs tonight on a few dodgy refereeing decisions.
Old 01 July 2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
I think you'll find that whilst dissapointed, most England fans have gotten over it. About time you did isn't it?
Let's just see come Sunday will we
I'll look out for comments on here, and also pretty much guaranteed Motson will mention it
Old 01 July 2004, 05:08 PM
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WTF that Audiboy was sure fast......he's completly gone just leaving us Scooby Owners in his dust....
Old 01 July 2004, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Audi-Boy
England would have won it, only an act of god would have stopped us; well, I say an act of god, or a perfectly good goal that's dissalowed would do quite the same!

England are the real champs of Europe, the last 4-2 was no competition.
I could understand this if England played well, but they were rubbish and it was NOT a goal. The best team won on the night.
Old 01 July 2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
So if England are the real champs, why is it that they last won a trophy an incredible 38 years ago

Surely "champion" teams win more often????

PS I'll disregard your comments on the referee. He was doing his job. It hardly warrants death threats, mistake or not.

Actually England have only ever been in 1 final and that was against Germany in 66. What about that goal that never was in that final, don't hear much about that these days. Not in the Sun anyway
Old 01 July 2004, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Let's just see come Sunday will we
I'll look out for comments on here, and also pretty much guaranteed Motson will mention it
Who gives a toss what John Motson says or doesn't say? I was refering to the fact that most England fans have probably gotten over it, where as you're still banging on about it. Makes you look a tad bitter and jealous.
Old 02 July 2004, 11:11 AM
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I think it's rigged for portugal to win
I think you prolly are right there M8 - Some very 'Friendly' Ref's have looked after their games Funnily enough very similar to watching Porto's progression in the Champions League and they won it lol
Old 02 July 2004, 12:35 PM
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UEFA should look at their system of selcting ref's - a swiss ref should not have been in charge for a match where a team had just eliminated his home country. Nor should a ref be in charge where the winning team is likely to play his home country.
Old 02 July 2004, 01:22 PM
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so how much did you bet on the greeks then messiah?
Old 02 July 2004, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
Who gives a toss what John Motson says or doesn't say? I was refering to the fact that most England fans have probably gotten over it, where as you're still banging on about it. Makes you look a tad bitter and jealous.
Bitter? Jealous? Good grief, what makes you think that? I don't really take much interest in football generally....

What have I got to be bitter or jealous about????

You doth protest too much my son
Old 02 July 2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Bitter? Jealous? Good grief, what makes you think that? I don't really take much interest in football generally....

What have I got to be bitter or jealous about????

You doth protest too much my son
Errmm.. wasn't it you that started this thread, which was clearly intended to be yet another moan about England? Seriously - get over yourself.
Old 02 July 2004, 03:51 PM
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unfortunately, I bet bog all on the greeks.

anyone know what the odds were?
Old 02 July 2004, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye
Errmm.. wasn't it you that started this thread, which was clearly intended to be yet another moan about England? Seriously - get over yourself.
Who's moaning?
You're the one getting all upset over it

Don't take it so seriously.......calm down man!
Old 02 July 2004, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
unfortunately, I bet bog all on the greeks.

anyone know what the odds were?
100-1 to win at the start IIRC.
Old 04 July 2004, 12:48 PM
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I had a feeling that a 'lesser' team would go a long way in this tournament, so I put big money on......Bulgaria! doh
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Well, Portugal didn't win, yet my point has been proven :

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341876



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