druddle

In order from lowest to highest bhp........

Sorry its taken a while, i've been in Glasgow for work for a few days and not had a chance.

Name Car Power (bhp) Torque (lb/ft)

Dave Ruddle Clio 172 168 151
LukeS Civic Type R 186
mutant_matt MY00 229 221
mbc MY01 234 214
Alex (DrEvil) MY01 235
GW2000 MY00 237 236
Scoobysnack MY00 243 239
velryba MY95 243 220
Spider MY98 246 221
Ian (Dyney) MY97 259 239
mattski2 RB5 265 256
scoobyjawa MY99 Turbo 266 257
Pete (madras) MY98 267 265
Scott W MY98 Wagon 268 251
Rich Sandlan UK99 275 250
mole and dad MY99 Turbo 275 250
SiWhite P1 282 245
RB5Scott UK300 286 273
maffa MY95 WRX 296 238
POC MY95 WRX 298 242
rsturbojohn 94 WRX Sti 302 261
Stuart Knight MY94 WRX 329 286

If you have any more then please feel free to add them

Dave

RB5SCOTT

for easier reading

Dave Ruddle---------Clio172--------------168bhp-----------151lb/ft

Luke S-----------------CivicR----------------186bhp------------?

Mutant Matt-----------My00------------------229bhp------------221lb/ft

MBC--------------------My01------------------234bhp-----------214lb/ft

DrEvil-------------------My01------------------235bhp-----------?

GW2000---------------My00------------------237bhp-----------236lb/ft

Velryba-----------------My95------------------243bhp-----------220lb/ft

Scoobysnack---------My00------------------243bhp-----------239lb/ft

Spider------------------My98------------------246bhp-----------221lb/ft

Dyney-------------------My97------------------259bhp-----------239lb/ft

Mattski2----------------RB5-------------------265bhp-----------256lb/ft

Scoobyjawa-----------My99------------------266bhp-----------257lb/ft

Madras-----------------My98------------------267bhp-----------265lb/ft

ScottW------------------My00wagon--------268bhp-----------251lb/ft

Rich Sandlan---------My99-----------------275bhp-----------250lb/ft

Mole---------------------My99-----------------275bhp-----------250lb/ft

SiWhite-----------------P1--------------------282bhp-----------245lb/ft

RB5Scott---------------UK300--------------286bhp-----------273lb/ft

Maffa--------------------My95-----------------296bhp-----------238lb/ft

POC---------------------My95wrx------------298bhp-----------242lb/ft

RSTurboJohn--------My94wrxsti---------302bhp-----------261lb/ft

Stuart Knight----------My94wrx------------329bhp-----------286lb/ft

Jacko ??????????????

Topcat(Moe)-----------Catalunya---------????

Trout---------------------STI 5----------------????

[Edited by RB5SCOTT - 1/27/2002 5:33:51 PM]

RB5SCOTT

Well, nearly it looked straight when i typed it

Scott W

Cheers for placing the results up Dave (and RB5Scott for making it easier to read ).

BTW I'm a MY00 not MY98

druddle

Text formatting in my first post was by Stevie Wonder.

I thank you, taxiiiiiiiiiiii................

Dyney

Wheres Plantie's or is he to ashamed to post his figures!!

Scott W

I was wondering that as well Dyney? Maybe now his car is running better, he wouldn't mind letting everybody else know what he got on the day?

Plantie

Only just seen the post boys....

It's not my fault I am not on the list... someone forgot me.

257bhp and 239lbs at 12 psi....

Got it all sorted now... it was a restrictor causing the problem...

Scott you'll just have to wait until the next one to confirm I'm still quicker than you!!! Even with your bleed valve!

ScoobyJawa

The Dawes isn't a bleed valve, its a Manual Boost Controller and does the same job as an EBC, but for 300 odd quid less.......with not quite so many functions.

For the uninformed theres quite a bit of difference between an MBC and a bleed valve. Although the Dawes can be drilled out to have a bigger bleed in it, this simply makes the boost come in smoother than going from off to on.
The results speak for themselves, it gives a car fitted with it PPP power for 30 quid instead of 1700 and checked out on the dyno and select monitor to prove that its a setup that works and fuels very well.

Besides - Scotts got an excuse anyway - he drives a wagon lol!!!! (no offence meant but they are supposed to have a lower power to weight figure than the saloon)
Still, never mind eh scott? Your car still has more power than a standard Jap Import WRX wagon

ga33a

Dave, How could you forget me?

263bhp -- 239 ft/lbs torque. Crap torque

Cheers

Gazza

[Edited by ga33a - 1/28/2002 11:15:34 AM]

Plantie

bleed valve everyone says boom boom boom!!

ScoobyJawa

whatever

Scott W

Plantie - In answer to your statement, please view the below comment taken from Darren Dawes website:-

Is this a "bleed"?: No. It is a pressure-controlled device, unlike a bleed. One big disadvantage of a bleed is that the boost signal is always acting on the wastegate as the boost builds. This means that the wastegate is allowing exhaust gas to bypass the turbine at the exact time you need it to be spooling up your turbo. The SD Boost Controller holds the signal from the wastegate until it reaches the level that you have set. Because of its rapid actuation, "spiking" (momentarily exceeding the boost limit) is almost completely eliminated. Some electronic controller companies actually try to promote spiking as a positive feature, because their controllers cannot react fast enough to accurately control the problem.

I hope this answers your statement, but all in all, for $35, myself and a fair few other people on this BBS are more than happy with the results that it provides, no matter what you want to call it. Also judging by the interest shown in the group buy, I would say this reflects how good this "mod" is, and how else would you get a 15 bhp increase and 20 lbs/ft of torque so easily?

Also, just picking up on Neil's comments, this is a far more cost effective way to get the same power as a PPP'd car for a fraction of the cost, and without the need for the car to be completely standard before it can all be fitted.

Alex, sorry for straying from the main point of this thread, but I just wanted to highlight the difference between the Dawes MBC and a bleed valve, and also provide a basis for any potential Dawes buyers of the gains that can be made from the device.

[Edited by Scott W - 1/28/2002 1:19:57 PM]

Jacko

Jacko---------------------My97UK------------290bhp@5600rpm-----------288lb/ft

ScoobySnack

Tried to fit my "doors" device this am, couldn't shut the bonnet. My fault for trying to jam 6ft of wood into me engine bay without understanding first....

Suppose it not as bad as the PPP... wots healthcare gotta do with giving me more power anyway..

Roll on the delta 1 ECU.....

J

Plantie

The Bleed brothers are getting a bit touchy!!!

Chill out boys.... if you can't afford a PPP then its definatley worth it!

Just don't blow your cars up trying to better each other!

Your too easy to wind up!

[Edited by Plantie - 1/28/2002 3:16:00 PM]

POC

'if you can't afford a PPP then its definatley worth it'

Or you could ask 'King Plantie' to buy it for you out of his massive wealth.....?

Scott W

lol @ POC and ScoobySnack

Plantie - Like I said above, I'm just trying to prove to any "would be" Dawes buyer that it can give you the same performance increase as the PPP, without the cost and the chance of blowing your engine up.

As for not being able to afford it, you should try saving for a wedding! Some people have alternative goals in life, and one of mine is to get married, and not be in debt for the rest of my life! Therefore, why spend £1700 on something, when you can get similar (if not better) performance for $35.

We all know that you are on a mission to have the "quickest" car (Link, new turbo, etc... ), but why spend thousands of pounds in doing it and then end up with a whacking big loan to pay it all off?! Then once you come to sell the car, you have to spend an additional fortune on getting the car back to normal?

[Edited by Scott W - 1/28/2002 3:19:14 PM]

Plantie

Totally agree Scott... I wouldn't buy a PPP far too much money...

POC... if you ask nicely... I might buy you a new front end.... (on a serious note sorry to hear about the deer... real bummer)

Admirable is the wedding fella.... you've got a lovely Wife to be!!! Fair play.

Scooby370beast

Is that all you got??

POC

LOL @ Plantie, was just mucking about m8

You can buy me a new front end if you like m8? That is if you cant find a bonnet! Cant find one of the f*ckers anywhere!

Oh, and my car is faster than your car

Paul

Plantie

POC...

Try Subaru Brakers in Worcester... they may have one...

'Oh, and my car is faster than your car'

Definately more Horses.... but quicker ?? we shall see! I should be back up to 265lb torque now my problem has been sorted!!! Nice horse figures regardles...

Scott W

Plantie thanks for the compliment on Karen

grahamstocker

Now now children Steady!! just wait till Grandad gets back on the Rollers now Sonics sorted! G.

druddle

Aaaaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh i cant take it any more !! Mistakes everywhere...........

Apologies to Jacko and Plantie and anyone else for missing you out. I have to go for some (beer) therapy for a week now.

The next RR session will be much better organised and i wont lose the running order. Promise. Scouts honour.

And we cant wait for grandadstocker and sonic to get on the rollers. Hehehe.

Scott W

lol @ G and Dave

I've just found out that I've got one of the "slower" ECU's so I'm extremely happy with my results!

Dave any ideas of when you plan to arrange the next one? I promise I'll turn up on time for this one as well

ScoobyJawa

Yeah roll on the next meet..........

Trout...

Trout STi V - 242bhp - 294torque

*WEG*

Trout