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Old 26 July 2017, 04:32 PM
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Default Considering a Classic STi Wagon...

...are there pros/cons to the different versions?...3, 4, 5, 6?

Any advice greatly received

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Old 26 July 2017, 04:47 PM
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Somewhat torn between a flippant "Google is your friend" response versus happiness that there's still some activity on this forum.

My £0.02 is that these are now 17-23 year-old cars and differences between individual examples will outweigh any version differences, which were subtle even when they were new.
Old 26 July 2017, 05:16 PM
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Biggest differences are the dash boards and cams, beyond that original V3 and facelift if we're talking STI's.

Your biggest problem is going to be finding a nice one... as with all classics... you want one that's spent a large chunk of time in a garage or fresh import, anything else and rust is going to be an issue.
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Pretty much what Ditchmyster said, Rust will be the biggest issue with these cars now, and anything decent condition you will be paying a large premium for it, Personally I prefer the Version 5/6 as it was last of the classic shape and come with the crystal headlights, better looking dash/steering wheel, front bumper.
Old 26 July 2017, 05:27 PM
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This one looks good judging by the advert/pictures, worth a look if your after a classic STi wagon!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-SUBAR...3D201970677961
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Maybe depends why you're looking to purchase one of these - the V1 obviously lacked some of the later refinements but if original and good condition it's probably a good enthusiasts car as a classic investment. I seem to think the V3 was the first version wagon to come with 280 bhp and the later V3 cars got the 4 pot calipers and larger discs. There a nice white V6 on eBay or gumtree just now, maybe a bit pricey for what you were planning - £6995 - but I seem to think it's a recent import and the ad looks like the car is excellent condition.

Lol - car I mentioned is in the reply above, think the price has been reduced from when I first noticed it.

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Old 26 July 2017, 09:00 PM
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The biggest difference is if your after a remap, v3 and 4 will need a new ecu or ESL, where as v5 or v6 can just be remapped as is.
Old 27 July 2017, 01:44 PM
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Imported June 2017 V6 Limited. A nice original rust free example !


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Originally Posted by RAF1
Imported June 2017 V6 Limited. A nice original rust free example !

That is a very, very nice wagon.
Old 27 July 2017, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RAF1
Imported June 2017 V6 Limited. A nice original rust free example !

I've seen this in the flesh, it's amazing
Best classic I've seen in years. It really is special.
Old 27 July 2017, 08:02 PM
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Get one dude.If you like them as alot of people don't.I love mine.

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Thanks very much for all the replies chaps
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
The biggest difference is if your after a remap, v3 and 4 will need a new ecu or ESL, where as v5 or v6 can just be remapped as is.
Thanks; just the sort of info. I was after.

I think re-map would be on the cards for sure, not least to make sure it runs well on UK fuel.
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Originally Posted by RAF1
Imported June 2017 V6 Limited. A nice original rust free example !

Very nice; is it for sale?!
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Yes check out RASP cars
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Mine was imported 9 years ago & I have no evidence of mine ever been mapped etc.I run it on v power or momentum & never had any problems.I am going get a mapped esl installed in the new year around feb/march 2018 but it will be mainly in the pursuit of more power.
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Originally Posted by 53
Imported last year 46k miles 22 years old 555 Wagon STi Needed a wash after a few hundred miles getting all the servicing etc completed

Nice
Old 28 July 2017, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
The biggest difference is if your after a remap, v3 and 4 will need a new ecu or ESL, where as v5 or v6 can just be remapped as is.
My V5 needed a new ECU - It couldn't be remapped I used an Apexi power FC ECU.
Old 28 July 2017, 04:38 PM
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Do you want one as an investment? A garage queen/show car? Fair weather/weekend only or just something to drive and enjoy?
Old 28 July 2017, 05:44 PM
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I loved my MY99 classic wagon. It had a mild map tweak to 250bhp and drove beautifully. I kept it for nearly 14 years.
The STi should be even nicer, so I'd just go for it. The later the better, I'd say.
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What Impreza did you have?


Originally Posted by wilkoca
My V5 needed a new ECU - It couldn't be remapped I used an Apexi power FC ECU.
Old 29 July 2017, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wadsy69
Thanks; just the sort of info. I was after.

I think re-map would be on the cards for sure, not least to make sure it runs well on UK fuel.
Doesn't matter what ecu it has these days as the price will be about the same, Ecutec (mappable) will cost you ish £500 because of the licence fee and ESL (piggy back/daughter board) will cost about the same board + mapping, there is Open source but I'd only use that if I were mapping it myself.
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Hi, my V3 sti V Ltd is for sale, recently imported, 55k miles, stunning condition, all standard apart from the OZ wrc 1 wheels (although I have standard available as well).

Cheers
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Originally Posted by Kev_STI
Hi, my V3 sti V Ltd is for sale, recently imported, 55k miles, stunning condition, all standard apart from the OZ wrc 1 wheels (although I have standard available as well).

Cheers
Kev
Thanks Kev; I'd yours on Type-RA....very nice
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I've got a Version 1 STI Wagon, JDM, imported in 2006 and garaged. For Sale.

My friend has got a Version 3 STI Wagon, JDM Import. We compare them back to back a lot, which is really good. I find the EJ20G (V1 engine) has better low down torque where as EJ20K (V2 engine) has much better top end power delivery but not as much low down torque.

Other than that, very similar!

What are you looking for? Standard or slightly modified or heavily modified?

Thanks,
Richard

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My brother has a V1 STI wagon, I've got a V5. Go for the V5/6, turbo spools much sooner, gearshift much nicer and overall a better looking car imho.

Better engine, better brakes, better suspension and a nicer interior on the later ones.
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
What Impreza did you have?


It was a JDM STI V5 - Ecutek was only an option on the newage
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How much?

Originally Posted by dakr
I've got a Version 1 STI Wagon, JDM, imported in 2006 and garaged. For Sale.

My friend has got a Version 3 STI Wagon, JDM Import. We compare them back to back a lot, which is really good. I find the EJ20G (V1 engine) has better low down torque where as EJ20K (V2 engine) has much better top end power delivery but not as much low down torque.

Other than that, very similar!

What are you looking for? Standard or slightly modified or heavily modified?

Thanks,
Richard

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Originally Posted by jaygsi
How much?

I am open to offers to be honest. I'll try messaging you direct?
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Originally Posted by wilkoca
It was a JDM STI V5 - Ecutek was only an option on the newage
You can definitely ECUTEK a v5 sti.



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