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Woi!! 13k!
I have a quote in my email from a big tuner for around 6k plus vat for a 600hp 2.35.
Tbh that's just block, so I'd expect a couple of k for heads so I'd say just under 9k all in with good parts.
That arrow crank is posh but that's some price lol, what power you building for and is the crank needed at your level? Or are you going high compression and like the redlining engine hence Gucci crank?
Tbh for a proper build I only think it's slightly over by about 4K lol. But I suppose everyone charges different for what ever reasons.
Edit-I included my heads already, but add another 1.5k for bare ones. So not that much over for a complete build tbf
Last edited by bustaMOVEs; 27 January 2018 at 10:54 AM.
Woi!! 13k!
I have a quote in my email from a big tuner for around 6k plus vat for a 600hp 2.35.
Tbh that's just block, so I'd expect a couple of k for heads so I'd say just under 9k all in with good parts.
That arrow crank is posh but that's some price lol, what power you building for and is the crank needed at your level? Or are you going high compression and like the redlining engine hence Gucci crank?
Tbh for a proper build I only think it's slightly over by about 4K lol. But I suppose everyone changes different for what ever reasons.
Edit-I included my heads already, but add another 1.5k for bare ones. So not that much over for a complete build tbf
Yea and thats just for parts delivered
If done at a garage then I would expect extra for Labour & Profit margin.
You could possibly get away with stock AVCS heads and some "Funny Fuel"
See you near 600 on a 2.35 & cheaper still.
£40k would be a fair price to put on a complete build
But a £40k Engine id want NASA spec lolol Ti & Inconel
No harm in going overboard with a project tho
You could go crazy wih Syvecs/Motec and spend close to that on race electrics,dashboards etc.
Last edited by SmurfyBhoy; 27 January 2018 at 11:06 AM.
2.35 Rebuild from scratch is far from cheap...I know I've done it,labour cost can be anywhere from £5000 + alone then parts on top block work,head work,valves etc, uprated cams if your going that way,uprated clutch,turbo,uprated ecu,uprated brakes,miscellaneous parts,believe me when I say,out of all the rebuilds the 2.35 cost serious money to do it right.SJ.
2.35 Rebuild from scratch is far from cheap...I know I've done it,labour cost can be anywhere from £5000 + alone then parts on top block work,head work,valves etc, uprated cams if your going that way,uprated clutch,turbo,uprated ecu,uprated brakes,miscellaneous parts,believe me when I say,out of all the rebuilds the 2.35 cost serious money to do it right.SJ.
iv had more than enough forged engines built to know what I'm willing to pay and wouldn't be anywhere near the prices quoted ,, can get a full blown WRC spec gas ringed engine including WRC cams and all machine work for the heads and block for around half that price and spec'ed to around 800bhp , I know as iv already got some of it built lol
iv had more than enough forged engines built to know what I'm willing to pay and wouldn't be anywhere near the prices quoted ,, can get a full blown WRC spec gas ringed engine including WRC cams and all machine work for the heads and block for around half that price and spec'ed to around 800bhp , I know as iv already got some of it built lol
2.35 Rebuild from scratch is far from cheap...I know I've done it,labour cost can be anywhere from £5000 + alone then parts on top block work,head work,valves etc, uprated cams if your going that way,uprated clutch,turbo,uprated ecu,uprated brakes,miscellaneous parts,believe me when I say,out of all the rebuilds the 2.35 cost serious money to do it right.SJ.
the OP would have gone through the planned build with Paul, in some detail, and would be fully aware of exactly what and why needed to be done to achieve his objectives.
The man knows exactly what he's doing so no point in trying to second guess the cost. The build would cost what it cost for the spec and no more.
Trev
As said mine didn’t cost anything like the price’s said above and is still running 580+ 8 years later
There is a big difference in building a 600hp capable engine and one that is capable of 900+. Like it has been said I have spoken to Paul excessively throughout and believe me the price for what he is building is far from dear. Yes he could have done it cheaper using far less specked parts but that is not what I wanted. Whoever thinks they could build any half decent 2.35 from scratch for circa 7k is living in cuckoo land.
2.35 Rebuild from scratch is far from cheap...I know I've done it,labour cost can be anywhere from £5000 + alone then parts on top block work,head work,valves etc, uprated cams if your going that way,uprated clutch,turbo,uprated ecu,uprated brakes,miscellaneous parts,believe me when I say,out of all the rebuilds the 2.35 cost serious money to do it right.SJ.
My 6k plus vat = 7.2k was price for block alone built, so adding new big port heads and uprated valvtrain and cams then add another circa 3k so that's at over 10k already, plus all the miscellaneous parts. So the ops 13k is not that far off, I'm guessing his is all fitted and mapped etc, my price was built and supplied.
Projects can creep massively when you want to do it right.
I, slowly doing mine as I want it done right so have to spend that extra and be patient, my heads are at £2k just for valvtrain alone, minus heads and labour to refresh.
Off topic like, but what's people's experience if I want to built a block with high compression like lots of hard redline?
Is it better rods or better crank like arrow etc to be the ones that are used?
No it isn’t fitted and mapped. It is using all the best parts available n for a fully timed up long engine. Here are a few pics of the heads that Paul sent me a couple of days ago to show the quality. Brand new big port heads where used due to the fact he couldn’t find any good used ones that where up to the job. Vernier pulleys will be also used.
Whatever the cost cars gonna be a beast
Even thou wilt build engines for 900bhp
Seems most run in the 600s pointless waste of money if not going over 800 hp imo
buster More say crank,cam,gaslowed head,valves,stronger valve springs etc....SJ.
Only thing I can think of is the arrow crank, I've included cams, vavltrain etc, but depends who you buy from for the price lol, my cams are identical to cosworth 278s wink wink.
Why would you need gas flowed ported heads on new big ports?
Oohhh lovely shiney v8 big ports heads, what cams are they davey? Looking great.
Only thing I can think of is the arrow crank, I've included cams, vavltrain etc, but depends who you buy from for the price lol, my cams are identical to cosworth 278s wink wink.
Why would you need gas flowed ported heads on new big ports?
Busta i purchased brand spanking new big port heads for my build as I could not find a decent second hand set and still to make the most out of my Cosworth cams and valve set I got head work done, but everyone does things the way they want too,i was looking to achieve over 600 bhp on just pump gas and running under 2 bar "I'm running around 1.9 bar" and I achieved my goals comfortably with room to spare if I want more,but once you even get to 550bhp+you don't really need much more to put a big grin on your face.SJ.
Busta i purchased brand spanking new big port heads for my build as I could not find a decent second hand set and still to make the most out of my Cosworth cams and valve set I got head work done, but everyone does things the way they want too,i was looking to achieve over 600 bhp on just pump gas and running under 2 bar "I'm running around 1.9 bar" and I achieved my goals comfortably with room to spare if I want more,but once you even get to 550bhp+you don't really need much more to put a big grin on your face.SJ.
lol I understand where your coming from, so for better flow, your ported even further on big ports? Heck lol.
I bet you payed the £1200 plus for your cams though? It helps if you know their supplier and don't have the cosworth stamp to bring pice down
Edit- I suppose it helps further to further port on a 2.35 though?
I'm deffo set on a 2.1 but deciding on arrow crank for the reliable redline abuse?
Omega extreme pistons, arrow rods, just unsure of crank.
Last edited by bustaMOVEs; 27 January 2018 at 06:04 PM.
I find this very hard to believe... what's the spec and who is building it?
Said earlier in the thread I’m not getting into a debate about my own build ,,I was just surprised at the cost compared to what I’d be willing to pay
Believe what you like but when your building a WRC spec car you need a engine to suit or am I not building that either lol
Said earlier in the thread I’m not getting into a debate about my own build ,,I was just surprised at the cost compared to what I’d be willing to pay
Believe what you like but when your building a WRC spec car you need a engine to suit or am I not building that either lol
27 January 2018, 10:42 AM
.SJ.
