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Old 07 April 2016, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
Please show me the post where I said there was no damage .

Yes I doubt the report that says there was because of the lack of photos of it , like I said why aren't there hundreds showing the damage and fires

Yes there is smoke

The point I'm making is the lack of photos and videos of the buildings damage and fires , that's it

I've said time and again none of this proves anything , in other words I don't know what the truth is ,
Second paragraph and see the pictures above, they're not new you were looking on sites that don't want you to see them.

What proof do you want? There were no explosives, the building was on fire, had a 20 story hole in it and a two buildings weighing millions of tons pounded the ground next to it. It fell down, why does that need any more proof.
Old 07 April 2016, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
, in other words I don't know what the truth is ,
agreed, and something you have in common with the OP

but all the line of evidence from multiple sources points to the earth being round and WT7 being fatally damaged by fires and debris and succumbing to a gravity led collapse

anything is possible, but that fails as a scientific hypothesis without evidence
Old 07 April 2016, 04:51 PM
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I'd like to see something like these









Of coarse none of those buildings fires were bad enough to cause the building to collapse entirely but you get the point .

I also had to see the Lord of the dance to believe it .

The reporters must of kicked themselves for not staying around a bit longer I guess
Old 07 April 2016, 05:16 PM
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First result for Fire WT7

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-wt...complex.t1804/
Old 07 April 2016, 05:24 PM
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You missed the point of the pictures , I was asked what I'd like as proof , I showed examples of building fires to demonstrate what I expect the fully involved fire at wtc to look like, we all know it never looked anything like those fires , or there would be pictures , I find it difficult to imagine what the fires must of been like to cause such damage but remain out of sight

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Old 07 April 2016, 05:30 PM
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I showed you a page where you can find out why you didn't see fire like you showed in the pictures, it's very well explained. Take a quick look up at your pictures if you can't be bothered to read, the outside of the building is on fire.
Old 07 April 2016, 05:32 PM
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Most of the eyewitneses were fire fighters and most described it as, the building was fully involved in fire , something like that , it's obviously firefighter talk , I'd just liked to have seen how that looked , I'm guessing the reporters were there alongside the fire fighters up to the point it was clear it was going to collapse , so pictures or videos of that moment would be good to see
Old 07 April 2016, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I showed you a page where you can find out why you didn't see fire like you showed in the pictures, it's very well explained. Take a quick look up at your pictures if you can't be bothered to read, the outside of the building is on fire.
Yes I read that , so the wtc7 fire stayed far enough away from the Windows , okay , that makes sense
Old 07 April 2016, 05:35 PM
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the problem with all conspiracy theorists and science deniers is that they ultimately take the view that unless THEY are personally convinced - to THEIR satisfaction then it is all a hoax


so 911 twoothers want it all proved by "models" however the basic physics of the Square-cube law, amongst other things, determines that this is not possible

anti-evolutionists want to see a monkey giving birth to a human - again wont happen

climate change/science deniers want to release a molecule of C02 into the atmosphere and then run to a thermometer and record a temperature rise

the above "impossible proof" complete with a basic misunderstanding of the underlying science and it is a toxic mix
Old 07 April 2016, 05:36 PM
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And if you think I think I'm proving anything. I don't
Old 07 April 2016, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
the problem with all conspiracy theorists and science deniers is that they ultimately take the view that unless THEY are personally convinced - to THEIR satisfaction then it is all a hoax


so 911 twoothers want it all proved by "models" however the basic physics of the Square-cube law, amongst other things, determines that this is not possible

anti-evolutionists want to see a monkey giving birth to a human - again wont happen

climate change/science deniers want to release a molecule of C02 into the atmosphere and then run to a thermometer and record a temperature rise

the above "impossible proof" complete with a basic misunderstanding of the underlying science and it is a toxic mix
I read the first line and thought blah blah blah , bored of hearing it
Old 07 April 2016, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
I read the first line and thought blah blah blah , bored of hearing it
yes you carry searching for the truth by endlessly trawling conspiracy and disinformation sites

like I said pages and pages ago - you have the answers but you simply stick your fingers in your ear and go "blah blah blah"

honestly you are a joke
Old 07 April 2016, 06:13 PM
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Skyscraper fires??? WTF.
Slightly off topic.
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You think I've been trying to find the truth , that is a joke
Old 07 April 2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Skyscraper fires??? WTF.
Slightly off topic.
Don't take things so seriously , remember why you came into this thread
Old 07 April 2016, 06:22 PM
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Never argue with a fool
Old 07 April 2016, 06:36 PM
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or a Conspiritard.
Old 07 April 2016, 06:48 PM
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Thanks for the conversation
Old 07 April 2016, 07:21 PM
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Is this thread still going? Blimey !!!!

If the earth was flat, I think we'd know. And if it was, why would it be a secret? Incase we all decided to sail to the edge to see what's over the edge, and tip the place over?
Old 07 April 2016, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
Thanks for the conversation
Sorry that was a bit harsh, you're not a full on conspiritard... yet.
Old 07 April 2016, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Is this thread still going? Blimey !!!!

If the earth was flat, I think we'd know. And if it was, why would it be a secret? Incase we all decided to sail to the edge to see what's over the edge, and tip the place over?
Nah, it wouldn't tip over unless everyone lined up on one edge and jumped up and down in unison. Then we'd really be in trouble
Old 07 April 2016, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Is this thread still going? Blimey !!!!

If the earth was flat, I think we'd know. And if it was, why would it be a secret? Incase we all decided to sail to the edge to see what's over the edge, and tip the place over?
Ask Gary, he's got all the answers and isn't looking for proof. Then again, he wants us to all go and look for the answers....wait....what ...as mentioned above, never argue with a fool
Old 07 April 2016, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Ask Gary, he's got all the answers and isn't looking for proof. Then again, he wants us to all go and look for the answers....wait....what ...as mentioned above, never argue with a fool
if people haven't read the thread that might actually be believed , tosser
Old 07 April 2016, 11:24 PM
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Just watched the video with the Orange glowy bits coming out the Windows , I've seen the pictures of that exact scene , I wonder how long before it collapsed that they were taken , how much worse did it get
Old 08 April 2016, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gary77
if people haven't read the thread that might actually be believed , tosser
Hahaha! You are a riot! That makes zero sense in response to my post. Not a lot rattling around in there alongside the conspiracy theories, is there? You're a wee treasure, aren't you.
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Hahaha! You are a riot! That makes zero sense in response to my post. Not a lot rattling around in there alongside the conspiracy theories, is there? You're a wee treasure, aren't you.

Okay , so what answers have I given to what questions ? and proof of what ? What did I say that needs proof ? And what do I want you to find the answer to?

Your comment about me paints a picture of somebody that thinks they know the truth and that the truth is far fetched and based on facts I have given no proof of .

What I've actually been doing is trying to have a conversation about a couple of the unusual circumstances ,

I could have a conversation about the no plane theory , would that mean I believe it to be a fact ?

I could have the discussion on the side of the no planers but it would really only be playing devils advocate , unfortunately the conversation would end with ridicule and people claiming that I believe it to be true

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Old 08 April 2016, 08:33 AM
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So are you saying that you believe that WT7 did fall down due to two planes crashing into two skyscrapers next door?
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Originally Posted by gary77
Don't take things so seriously , remember why you came into this thread
I don't think I'm the one that has lost sight of the original thread theme.
Old 08 April 2016, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
So are you saying that you believe that WT7 did fall down due to two planes crashing into two skyscrapers next door?
My view is , and has always been that it probably was ,to give a more accurate view I'd say 85% nists explanation and 15% conspiracy ,

I find it fun to have a discussion on the side of conspiracy up to the point it descends in ridicule and people painting an untrue picture of me ,

The no planer theory I give 0.01 % chance , and a 100% chance I'd be label a nut for putting any kind of debate forward
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I don't think I'm the one that has lost sight of the original thread theme.
For me the theme of the thread was outlandish claims , it was a bit of fun to start with, I did attempt to get a few discussions going it made me laugh at some points , I also wanted to see how many pages this could stretch to

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