mikey30

anybody understand how this works???

SC008Y_MAD

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Kinda, sort of. let me explain.

You get into your car and close the door, start the engine and then punch in your 4 digit valet code. Now if anyone anytime after you have punched in the code, someone opens a door, drivers, passengers then closed again, the blackjax will see this and after I think it is 30sec, will flash the indicators and rear tail lights and also beep at you, then if you don't punch in the valet code the ignition will be cut and the car will come to a stop and will not be able to be started again, unless the the pin code is entered.

I think is a great big of kit, just make sure you have it turned off when the car goes into a garage for service

mikey30

thanks man!!!!
reason i ask is i have the 650 alarm on my sti but i forget to put in the code most times until i'm already up the road!!!!!
my question is for example....i left my house yesterday and after bout 15 miles of driving,it dawned on me to put the damn code in....so i did and continued on driving with no problems
should my car not of shut down after maybe 5 minutes or so of driving????
probably should ask the installer should i???

SC008Y_MAD

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Had blackjax been activated on your 650?

Test, get into your car and shut door. Just turn the key in the ignition to full acc, so the dash lights up like a Christmas tree, punch in the code, then straight away press the lock and unlock on the remote. You should hear a beep to confirm, then when you turn the key back, you should hear a few more beebs to confirm that bjax is activated. Or when you do the same as above, the blue led should flash 5 times saying that bjax is not activated.

If you don't get the beep, then it has not been activated and you will have to go back to the alarm shop to get it sorted. That happened to be.

mikey30

thanks again!!!
so in your opinon,its not activated on what i have explained!!!!
great help
cheers

mikey30

just tested this as you said....
turned on ignition
typed in code
pressed lock button and got a beep
swiched off ignition and got few beeps and led flashed 5 times in the dash

that would indicate it works

SC008Y_MAD

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Yes!

SC008Y_MAD

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test: drive down the road with out typing in the code and see what happens, if nothing happens, say after 5 mins then I think it is set to long for the Bjax to work.

mikey30

would there be a time setting for the blackjax to kick in that is adjustable???
surely 15 miles or 10 minutes is too long for the system to activate!!!

SC008Y_MAD

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I am not entirely sure. Best to ask your alarm installer.

IanW

I am pretty certain that BlackJax is DISABLED by default on all of the Cat 1 alarms because it isnt tested or certified by Thatcham.

N_Scooby

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Correct. Its a good system but isn't certified under Thatcham. Insurance companies don't like it, so mines not switched on!!

phil_wrx

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right if u get in car turn engine on then off, the blue led should flash 10 times - this indicates that it is off.

how it works is that once u get in the car and start driving u have 30 secs to enter the code, after that the alarm beeps 3 times and the led inside car will flash constantly, if you still havent done this the alarm will go off and start too power down the vehicle until it is stopped after this the doors unlock.

those that have it and dont use it...... why? it is a superb peice of kit

B4D HK

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Im sure it is all to do with revs............

Pete type r

If you log onto clifford on the net there is a users manual there, should tell you about settings

Clifford - Owner's Guides

volcom

The cars engine won't shut down until the revs are at a safe limit.

Basically (my understanding from my own installed system) is:

Start car, you get 30 seconds to enter code (I think after revs go above 1500)
If you haven't entered code, indicators, brake lights etc start flashing and car starts making loud beeping noise. If after a further 30 seconds you still haven't entered the code (and the revs are at a safe level) the car will shut immobilise.

Again, as SC008Y_MAD has mentioned above, your system must be activated. It is possible to activate and deactivate from your keyfob. You'll need to refer to the manual for the button sequence.

Hope that made a wee bit of sense?

Good luck and I hope it works for you, I love it and it does give you a level of comfort.

scoobeenut

Been thinking about fitting blackjax myself really like the sound of the system. My question is why do the insurance companies not like it? surely anything that deters or makes life difficult for the theiving scum has got to be beneficial.

volcom

Bugger! I thought the Clifford Concept 650 (with Blakjax) was a Cat 1 Thatcham approved? All the websites selling it are stating that it is and my insurers know that it's on mine....... not good if this is now not true?

wrx9181

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should start to shut down within 200 meters max youll know about it
It starts to count down scares the life out of you
then disables the car !
The revs are linked to the door locks and locks you in after rev car first time
hope this helps
I think this alarm is the business

DukeBoy

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Got this fitted to mine and its fantasic but also a pain in the a**e.

Basically you start the car, punch in the code then drive as normal, if at any point someone opens the doors, boot, or bonnet you then have to re-punch in the code....if you forget to punch the code in after the door has been opened, once the throttle is touched you have 30secs to re-enter the code otherwise the engine cuts, doors lock and the alarm goes off.

Very good if you get hi-jacked, but a pain when you keep forgetting

volcom

Please note that the car will not shut down until the revs are below a safe limit. This is stated within the manual. If you think about it it's far too dangerous and the system would never pass safety laws if the car was allowed to speed away at high revs and then just shut down, that's asking for a serious accident with other road users or pedestrians.

volcom

I'm in total agreement with DukeBoy, it's great but you get a fright when you forget to punch in your code, it can be a hassle - but worth it.

mikey30

thanks guys,
did the test to check it activated and it is....
jumped in the car and drove striaght up the road for bout 10 minutes and nothing happened....

the hassle of goin back to this installer !!!!

p1junkie

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u dont have to go to installer the little booklet they gave u will have the sequence for activating blackjax

mikey30

have done that lad....as the book says
makes all the sounds its supposed to do...
but when i switch on ignition and drive away,nothing happens even after 10 minutes driving...
must not be wired properly i guess

phil_wrx

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it pulses the ignition down

p1junkie

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in which case installer has not fitted it correctly as the blackjax is sold as part off the alarm and only turn off as an option..and no ins co is going to refuse cover if the blackjax is enabled as it in no way detracts from the other functions of the alarm and imho blackjax is better than the rest of the alarm as if they get the keys the only thing to stop them is bjax

mikey30

IanW

As i said above yes it is a feature of the alarm, however it is not tested as part of the thatcham certification (or at least wasnt when i last checked) and as such the default option for it is disabled.

If you are going to enable it, cover yourself by getting it in writing from your insurance company that they are happy for you to have it activated, as it is far safer to cover yourself doing this, than them using it as an excuse to to pay out a claim.

mikey30

makes no difference to my insurance mate!!!!
insurance in ireland doesnt operate the same as in uk....