Standard Alarm / Imobiliser question
05 October 2008, 05:04 PM
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Standard Alarm / Imobiliser question
Hi,
I have a MY05 that has been stolen / recovered, the lovely chaps that took the car have a set of keys (still on them)
Looking at the options for getting the car secure and was thinking about just changing the alarm / imobilser, rather than go down all the new lock route
That way the remote key fob on the old key would not work and if they did open it with the key, the alarm would go off and the imobilser would prevent them taking the beast again
Does any one know what is involved in changing the key fob to a different code and rough ideas of cost / where this can be done?
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Andy
I have a MY05 that has been stolen / recovered, the lovely chaps that took the car have a set of keys (still on them)
Looking at the options for getting the car secure and was thinking about just changing the alarm / imobilser, rather than go down all the new lock route
That way the remote key fob on the old key would not work and if they did open it with the key, the alarm would go off and the imobilser would prevent them taking the beast again
Does any one know what is involved in changing the key fob to a different code and rough ideas of cost / where this can be done?
Regards
Andy
05 October 2008, 09:28 PM
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best bet is to have a new alarm fitted
Clifford Concept 470
Security System
This is one of the most advanced 1-way security systems in the world from Clifford that will wrap your vehicle in protection, with the most sophisticated electronic technologies available today, including the G5 glass break sensor, dual-zone vibration/impact sensor and Medallion2 programmable siren. This state-of-the-art system also offers in-demand convenience feature like keyless entry.
3 Channel Security System with Optional Keyless Entry
ACG2 Anti-Code Grabbing Technology
Built-In Parking Light Flasher
Selectable Dual-Point Smart Secure Immobilization
G5 Glass Break Sensor
Dual Stage Vibration/Impact Sensor
Medallion2 Programmable Tone Speaker Siren
Bright Blue LED Status Indicator
PlainView2 Coded Valet/Override Switch
CliffNetTM DataPort
2 Auxiliary Channels
Includes Two 5-Button Remote Controls
Clifford Concept 470
Security System
This is one of the most advanced 1-way security systems in the world from Clifford that will wrap your vehicle in protection, with the most sophisticated electronic technologies available today, including the G5 glass break sensor, dual-zone vibration/impact sensor and Medallion2 programmable siren. This state-of-the-art system also offers in-demand convenience feature like keyless entry.
3 Channel Security System with Optional Keyless Entry
ACG2 Anti-Code Grabbing Technology
Built-In Parking Light Flasher
Selectable Dual-Point Smart Secure Immobilization
G5 Glass Break Sensor
Dual Stage Vibration/Impact Sensor
Medallion2 Programmable Tone Speaker Siren
Bright Blue LED Status Indicator
PlainView2 Coded Valet/Override Switch
CliffNetTM DataPort
2 Auxiliary Channels
Includes Two 5-Button Remote Controls
05 October 2008, 09:40 PM
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Thanks Coolasice, that looks like like a bit of kit
This will probably be a cheaper and better option, I take it you have this one installed and are happy with it?
where did you get it installed?
Rgds Andy
This will probably be a cheaper and better option, I take it you have this one installed and are happy with it?
where did you get it installed?
Rgds Andy
05 October 2008, 09:44 PM
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06 October 2008, 04:37 PM
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Still waiting for the car to have it prints taken:-(
£320 for Subaru to update the Key / transponder and alarm, so if the break in they will not be able tostart it and I will get a warning
Any recommendations for a thatcham approved alarm welcome?
Rgds Andy
£320 for Subaru to update the Key / transponder and alarm, so if the break in they will not be able tostart it and I will get a warning
Any recommendations for a thatcham approved alarm welcome?
Rgds Andy
06 October 2008, 04:43 PM
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If thats all they are doing, you can do the same for free:
When you program a new fob, or re-program you current, it wipes of all the other fobs.
I'd be more concerned about sorting the locks, as you wouldn't want anyone it your car in the first place. The alarm may go off, but they wil then have access to the bonnet open lever, car contents etc. Most pro's only need a few seconds.
To program radio keys:
- Arm and then Disarm the system using a working Radio Key.
- Within 30 seconds of disarming, type into the keypad- *17856*91*2# where 2 is total number of radio keys to work the system
- Briefly press both/all radio keys in turn (the dash board LED will flash each time and the siren will bleep) Any radio keys not programmed here will no-longer operate the system.
- You should now be able to arm and disarm the system using all the radio keys programmed.
When using the keypad always observe the following points:
- The PIN number should not be entered too quickly or too slowly - when a digit has been pressed the small LED built into the keypad will illuminate briefly as confirmation and only then should the next digit be entered.
- If an incorrect digit is pressed or the delay between entering digits exceeds10 seconds, then the LED above the keypad will flash rapidly and the PIN attempt should be abborted and started again after 30 seconds.
- Due to the small size of the keypad some users may find a rubber tipped pencil easier to use. DO NOT use the sharp tip of a ball point pen etc, or press excessively hard on the keypad as this will only damage the membrane and cause a digit to remain pressed, causing a continual incorrect PIN.
- The keypad allows only THREE PIN attempts and then will "Lock Up" if an incorrect number is entered a third time. This is a security feature to prevent random PIN attempts disarming the system.
- Arm and then Disarm the system using a working Radio Key.
- Within 30 seconds of disarming, type into the keypad- *17856*91*2# where 2 is total number of radio keys to work the system
- Briefly press both/all radio keys in turn (the dash board LED will flash each time and the siren will bleep) Any radio keys not programmed here will no-longer operate the system.
- You should now be able to arm and disarm the system using all the radio keys programmed.
When using the keypad always observe the following points:
- The PIN number should not be entered too quickly or too slowly - when a digit has been pressed the small LED built into the keypad will illuminate briefly as confirmation and only then should the next digit be entered.
- If an incorrect digit is pressed or the delay between entering digits exceeds10 seconds, then the LED above the keypad will flash rapidly and the PIN attempt should be abborted and started again after 30 seconds.
- Due to the small size of the keypad some users may find a rubber tipped pencil easier to use. DO NOT use the sharp tip of a ball point pen etc, or press excessively hard on the keypad as this will only damage the membrane and cause a digit to remain pressed, causing a continual incorrect PIN.
- The keypad allows only THREE PIN attempts and then will "Lock Up" if an incorrect number is entered a third time. This is a security feature to prevent random PIN attempts disarming the system.
When you program a new fob, or re-program you current, it wipes of all the other fobs.
I'd be more concerned about sorting the locks, as you wouldn't want anyone it your car in the first place. The alarm may go off, but they wil then have access to the bonnet open lever, car contents etc. Most pro's only need a few seconds.
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06 October 2008, 05:28 PM
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How depressing is all this:-(
Re-programming seems easy enough, that is interesting to know
the locks push the bill up to ~£650, though I cannot imagine it being all that hard (apart from the ignition barrel)
Re-programming seems easy enough, that is interesting to know
the locks push the bill up to ~£650, though I cannot imagine it being all that hard (apart from the ignition barrel)
06 October 2008, 07:36 PM
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yes it should be covered by the insurance, but with £400 excess I thought I would look at alternatives first paying up to that value and save loosing the no claims discount:-(
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