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Old 17 February 2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Just bought a Clifford Concept 600

As the title says, I bought it off Ebay for £45 with valet code and everthing needed.


I thought it was an absolute bargain!! These alarms are a couple hundred £ from anywhere else!!!!

Anybody got one and had any problems????

I was after a Toad Ai606 but this was too good to pass up!!
Old 18 February 2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by teamheath2
As the title says, I bought it off Ebay for £45 with valet code and everthing needed.


I thought it was an absolute bargain!! These alarms are a couple hundred £ from anywhere else!!!!

Anybody got one and had any problems????

I was after a Toad Ai606 but this was too good to pass up!!

A lot of the cost of these, however, is in the installation. A GOOD installation should take a few days, and thats when the alarm is new and everything correctly labelled and fresh loom. Was the alarm new or used?
Old 18 February 2007, 12:45 PM
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Had 1 fitted my calibra turbo, never had any problems with it.

The standard vauxhall alarm was left active also, so i could use either.


Used the vaux one when i wanted to leave the sunroof open.

Siren wasnt very loud though, my only gripe.

Scoobyclinic fit alarms!!
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Your need a wiring loom though wont ya mate? their over a hundred quid and then installation on top! still should be half the price of a new one!
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in fact i have one here that needs a wiring loom lol!
Old 18 February 2007, 02:31 PM
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I got a new wiring loom with it, the guy bought it and never fitted it, the loom was £88 brand new.
The rest of the alarm is second hand but everything is there!!

The new loom has all black wires that are labelled to start but once it is fitted the labels are removed so thieves don't know what wires to cut!!!
Old 19 February 2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrayley
A lot of the cost of these, however, is in the installation. A GOOD installation should take a few days, and thats when the alarm is new and everything correctly labelled and fresh loom. Was the alarm new or used?
It only takes a few days to install if your a bad fitter. If you go to an authorised dealer then it will take approx 5 hours to install. Look on Clifford.com and find a local dealer.
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I got a new wiring loom with it,
sorted you got a bargain there
Old 19 February 2007, 04:59 PM
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Any idea how much fitting costs from a Clifford installer?

Does it need to be a Clifford installer, do they give me a certificate for the insurance?

Cheers fellas!!
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dont know, but gap security will know give um a ring!
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Originally Posted by MotorG Raf
It only takes a few days to install if your a bad fitter. If you go to an authorised dealer then it will take approx 5 hours to install. Look on Clifford.com and find a local dealer.

I couldnt disagree more. I have always asked for the best installation possible, often this involves removing most of the dash to find a good place to hide the unit, and all wiring run as neat and concelaled as possible. If you are fitting the unit in a similar place each time, like maybe you do with Subaru's, then maybe you could do it in that time. But how neat is the wiring, how well hidden is the unit, and how far apart are the cuts?

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Old 20 February 2007, 11:26 AM
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Is it definatley worth getting a Clifford fitter to do it? Would you all advise against getting someone else to do it? Do the insurance companies usually ask who the installer was??
Old 20 February 2007, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by teamheath2
Is it definatley worth getting a Clifford fitter to do it? Would you all advise against getting someone else to do it? Do the insurance companies usually ask who the installer was??
Always get a clifford fitter to fit it, thats never in question. Just tell them you want a top job, with the unit as hidden as possible and to take their time. Even if it costs you a little more. A good option is to ask them to take the cuts from one side of the car to the other, makes life far more difficult for the Pikeys Also think about having one of the cuts to the ECU power rather than starter (unless you plan on having Intellistart of course)
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Well Directed/VSIB approved dealer are well trained and even taking the dash apart to do the fit should not take two days to install.
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Originally Posted by MotorG Raf
Well Directed/VSIB approved dealer are well trained and even taking the dash apart to do the fit should not take two days to install.
Again this is dependant on the quailty of install. Maybe two days was a bit of an exageration I am sure a good/competent install could be achieved within a day, but if you really want a top job it can take longer with more thought going into the wiring. I have always asked for custom things, and lets face it the Subaru needs the best installation possible, as they are well targetted. I am sure you would take longer on your own car

p.s. I once had a chap from Gap (first and last time I would ever use them) installed a 600 and intellistart in my Cosworth in three hours. Everything seemed fine, never falsed seemed a good installation. Until my mate who is an autoelectrician looked over the wiring and it was disgraceful, and the immobilisation circuits were cut an inch apart. I am sure you do a MUCH better job without question though. You have a great rep and ovbiously know the Scooby inside out

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Old 21 February 2007, 06:43 PM
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The alarm arrived today! I had a look and it all seems there, the only thing was, I plugged all the sensors and that up to see what was left, and there was a few connectors free! Are these for the optional extras? i.e; intellistart, boot popper etc?

Just want to make sure there are no bits missing,

Cheers
Old 22 February 2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrayley
Again this is dependant on the quailty of install. Maybe two days was a bit of an exageration I am sure a good/competent install could be achieved within a day, but if you really want a top job it can take longer with more thought going into the wiring. I have always asked for custom things, and lets face it the Subaru needs the best installation possible, as they are well targetted. I am sure you would take longer on your own car

p.s. I once had a chap from Gap (first and last time I would ever use them) installed a 600 and intellistart in my Cosworth in three hours. Everything seemed fine, never falsed seemed a good installation. Until my mate who is an autoelectrician looked over the wiring and it was disgraceful, and the immobilisation circuits were cut an inch apart. I am sure you do a MUCH better job without question though. You have a great rep and ovbiously know the Scooby inside out
Fully agree with you that when fitting an alarm on imprezas you have to ensure it is a good fit.
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Does anyone know where I can get intallation intructions from for this alarm? I have downloaded some but I think they are for the US model and not the UK!!
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I have been lookin round and the US ones are the only ones I can find. Does anyone know if there is a different UK one or if this is the only one????
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PM me and i will get you a fitting manual
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Originally Posted by MotorG Raf
PM me and i will get you a fitting manual
You do realise that by giving out installation manuals you run the risk of having your DEI account shut down ?
Old 02 March 2007, 10:56 AM
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Its a discontinued model. Im sure the person installing knows that they will not get Thatcham approval on the system.
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Originally Posted by MotorG Raf
Its a discontinued model. Im sure the person installing knows that they will not get Thatcham approval on the system.
Doesn't matter if its discontinued or not. You can also have your VSIB and MESF approvals removed if you start handing out installation manuals of Thatcham products.
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Don't worry about it mate, I only wanted to check all the connections to make sure nothing is missing!! I'll have to go off the one I got, thanks alot for the offer mate but if it's that big a deal don't worry!!!!! The installer wont need one!!
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