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Old 01 May 2006, 09:51 PM
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Does anyone have any knowledge regarding these devices ie is there any info available from the police, magazine tests on which ones can stand up to attempts to remove them for the longest period? Or has anyone had their car nicked despite using?
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Originally Posted by Harps WRX
Does anyone have any knowledge regarding these devices ie is there any info available from the police, magazine tests on which ones can stand up to attempts to remove them for the longest period? Or has anyone had their car nicked despite using?
Disklock is your best bet - and get it from costco for approx £50
Old 01 May 2006, 10:02 PM
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Yep - Disklok; my STi was wearing one when it went.... At least I hope it caused some sparks in their face as they were grinding it off...
Old 01 May 2006, 10:02 PM
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I always go for the autolock style device, the type that lock the car in gear with the hand brake on, if used correctly they are a bitch to get off and are very easy to opperate and dont clutter up the car.
Old 01 May 2006, 10:13 PM
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Davey - I was told they are pants - not too hard to bend a gear lever and keep gears operational.
Old 01 May 2006, 10:15 PM
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Give it a crack, most selectors will comit suicide if you do that.

And to be fair they are all merely deterants, if someone really wants your car they will get it.. These kind of devices just slow them down and make it more awkward.
Old 01 May 2006, 10:18 PM
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I use a disklock too and no prob but I also have a gps tracker!
Old 01 May 2006, 10:23 PM
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Hungry Pit Bull in the back
Old 02 May 2006, 09:07 AM
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Thanks for the advice chaps and sorry you had your STI taken Diesel. Been trying to find tests and allsorts to see which is best but still no real progress. I remember years ago one of the lads car mags (Revs or Max Power) did a test where some ex-thief tested a number of different models to destruction and the one that came out tops was the Stoplock Pro steering arm job, but there must have been similar tests since then surely? Thing is my cars are under the watchful eye of CCTV 24hrs in a well lit area and I'm hoping that this plus the time it would take to remove a Disklok and/or wheel clamp would surely deter 99% of would-be tea leafs?

Yeah like the pitbull idea newquey. Would be worth them breaking in to see their remains in the morning...
Old 02 May 2006, 09:42 AM
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Discloc

It will deterr all but the serious car thieves who will take your car pretty much whatever you fit. Oh and get a bag for it as well to protect your interior and stop it clattering around.
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the round one that closes around the wheel won but he said once he knew where to attack it it was easy to get off
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If you can afford it £350 will get you a clifford concept alarm with blackjax.
Even if they get your car going it will only be about 400 yards away once it has immobilised itself if they dont have your code..
Disklock is good. Some Police stations sell them cheaper for about £40.
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pitbulls eat seats!!
Old 02 May 2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by trigger4032
If you can afford it £350 will get you a clifford concept alarm with blackjax.
Even if they get your car going it will only be about 400 yards away once it has immobilised itself if they dont have your code..
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Wouldn't you also have to have the std alarm too? I don't think Clifford have Thatcham approval for Blackjax systems, so you'd have security that -despite being very effective- wasn't thatcham categorised and thus wouldn't be recognised by the insurers!

Can you imagine the phone call?

"Hello, I'd like to insure a scooby"

"Of course, do you have a thatcham cat one alarm and immobiliser"

"No, but mine is better, you see........hello, hello?"

Either that or you'd collapse as they told you your premium!

Of course, you could get the blackjax unit seperately and integrate that into your std system, which is what most people seem to get done- that way you get the best of both worlds.

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Silver/Grey Disklok and Blackjax
Old 03 May 2006, 11:03 PM
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Mine had the disclock and a Cat 1 - if they can defeat the cat 1 then the blackjax element also becomes inoperational as its just a bolt on that activates the existing wired immobilisation under certain circumstances.

They REALLY wanted mine, so it went; could have been anything.

Wish I'd had something more 'custom' or homemade as I always promised myself. For them to spend an hour rewiring ground to a cam sensor or fuel pump or ecu or coil pack etc etc would have been FAR more of an unconventional detterent; always said i'd put one in... Still miss it.

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I need a Disclock now and Costco no longer sell it any idea where i find a cheap new one?

If the police sell it is there a web site showing which ones have them, hope fully in London!
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
I need a Disclock now and Costco no longer sell it any idea where i find a cheap new one?
No idea where to find a cheap one, unless Ebay has some on there, but IIRC Top gear or some motor thingy did a test with these devices, and it took a ex pro car thief 19 minutes to crack the Disclok.
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Originally Posted by Dazza0
Top gear or some motor thingy did a test with these devices, and it took a ex pro car thief 19 minutes to crack the Disclok.
but not all thiefs are pro`s , so it would be a good deterrant against the more average fcuktard

would be a good mod for an old classic though as no pro`s are gonna go near them (not worth enough cash to bother about)
Old 12 June 2006, 09:24 PM
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wheel clamps are too much hassel (and can scratch alloys), the steering locks that actually physically cover the whole steering wheel are alot better, the gear stick ones are too easy to get off, simply snap the gear stick, and stick a screwdriver in, seen a few nicked cars and people literally poke a screwdriver in as a gear stick, highly amusing but does work!
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