Jen_M

I am thinking of getting a Clifford Concept 650 Alarm and turbo timer. Anyone got any good or bad opinions of this.

Thanks

andy1505

Motorguard fitted mine, good alarm and good price. Fitted for two weeks and no probs.

the badger

how much you been quoted for the clifford i paid 350 last week for mine fitted

Jen_M

£400 and £90 for the turbo timer
Where was your quote from?

ProdriveSTI

Who quoted £400 for yours??

TEXAS PETE

Do any of you lot have the remote engine start?

S.B.

Good alarm as long as its fitted properly

andy1505

See Motorguard in any thread £350 with turbo timer

tominski

Anyone looked at these??

http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php...l&source=brand

Clifford SOLARIS 5 Anti jack engine start alarm

tominski

does seem a good price too..?!?

AsianGunner

iTrader: (7)

i've bought the concept 650 with the intelistart an turbo timer, just gotta get it fitted.

what exactly does the turbo timer do? i've been told it'll keep the engine on but the car will be immobilised, so the turbo gets to cool down properly.

the remote start should be quite useful for me, cos i can start her up when its still in the garage, then when i drive it , it should be nice an warm.

Jen_M

I was told the turbo timer will keep the engine running for about two minutes when I get out of the car and walk away. Anyone who has seen me will know I probably don't drive fast enough or far enough to get the turbo hot !! This only happens week-ends when it is hubby's turn to drive.

Remote start = Mines in the garage, the installation guy said it would probably be a bit smelly with the engine running in the garage. He has one on his car and hardly ever uses it - only in the winter when it is all iced up as his is not garaged.

MotorGuard

what you should also be aware of that is when your turbo timer is running you can just arm your vehicle and walk away knowing that your your car is locked and completely secure and after 2 mins the engine will cut off.

TEXAS PETE

How does the Clifford SOLARIS 5 line up next to the concept 650, is it a similar setup? That price seems good but is it lower in the range?

MotorGuard

the main differences between the Solaris & the Concept 650 is that the Solaris is not insurance approved and the 650 is, the Solaris does not come with a proximity sensor and blackJax where the 650 does.

With the Solaris system you get intellistart and a dual zone shock where you don't with the 650 but they can be added.

Jen_M

Do you know if you can select the numbers for the key pad on the 650, or are they fixed?

MotorGuard

you can change your code when ever you like. Easy to do if you follow your owners manual.

chiark

Just a few thoughts. Feel free to ignore
- Turbo timers are not thatcham approved, and any device which affects the operation of immobilisation cuts on your alarm/immobiliser invalidates thatcham approval. This means that, technically, you could find yourself with no theft insurance although that is admittedly very unlikely - however, I wouldn't want to be the test case which sorted out the case law for that one...

- Leaving a car with the motor running unattended on a public road is illegal. I very much doubt you'd ever get hassle for it

- Driving sensibly for two minutes before you pull up and turn off the engine is a *much* better idea. It'll give your brakes and other components a chance to cool down a bit more naturally - plus, with airflow over the engine I'd guess that it cools down more in those 2 minutes soft driving than it does sitting with the engine running

Ta,
Nick.

Jen_M

Glad I can change the code I am not very good on remembering numbers.

Nick, I agree with you, thanks.

Jen

NICKG

650 is a good all round alam to start with u can get more bits for it if needed any probs call 07984380026 for help

fiend

i had a clifford concept 650 fitted for 311 quid all in, in sheffield area. i m really happy with it, didnt go for turbo timer though as it affects your insurance! ask your ins co for details, it is no longer thatcham 1 when apllied.

borat52

I know this is tempting fate, but lets say your scoob gets nicked, how are the insurance company ever going to know that you had a turbo timer on the clifford 650rm? On mine at least there is no sign of the turbo timer from the cabin and i actually have to activate it before i cut the engine.
On a side note, got it from motorguard and also had a GTO and FTO kitted out by them, absolutely sound bunch of people, great price and great service, highly recommended.
Local company wanted to charge me 750 pounds for a clifford 650 with intellistart and turbo timer, motorguard did it for 500.

WRXtra power

Getting a clifford 650 fitted to my WRX on Monday for £380 with Dual-Zone Proximity which includes external warn-away chirp and the guy said he can actually link the alarm to my Blitz turbo timer which I will have more control over against a clifford one. The 650 is a great alarm as I had one on my old car. One thing I would say is read manual thoroughly before you mess with it as you can end up in bother very easily if messing with settings. Plus the add-ons are endless so you can’t really go wrong.

olliecampbell

iTrader: (3)

Dragging up an old thread but....can you bypass the turbo timer if you want to and just alarm the car? or does it have to run?

wannaB4

You use one of the channel output buttons to activate it, so simply no button press = no turbo timer

olliecampbell

iTrader: (3)

Ahh ok and is it an automatic one or does it run for a set period of time?

wannaB4

Your installer can set the time from 1sec to 4min

Fizz

iTrader: (1)

Be wary .. I seem to remember somewhere that fitting the intellistart to cliffords actually invalidated their thatchem 1 catagory as the car is left running on exit (even though it is allarmed and you have locked all the doors etc... double check as it may be different now..

wannaB4

True, anthing that allows the car to start without keys and owner (intelistart), or allows the engine to stop whilst driving (blackjax), will in theory invalidate Thatcham approval.

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