Bring back the old style forum..
Bring back the old style forum..
03 February 2004, 09:35 PM
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Well said - and WHY does it always include the message you are replying to in the new message box or am I just being stupid - annoying.
It looks like the horrible colours of the new Microsoft Office 2003. Bleughhhh!
I liked the cold blue look.
It looks like the horrible colours of the new Microsoft Office 2003. Bleughhhh!
I liked the cold blue look.
03 February 2004, 10:29 PM
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Aye,
like the face lift but this pay £25 to post things for sale and stuff!!! Nonsense!!
Will have to face facts that it prob will never go back to a free community service so I think I will be spending a good bit less time on here
They can go on about it being the busiest motoring BB in the world if they like but the fact is they are turning the majority of their following away all IMO of course.
like the face lift but this pay £25 to post things for sale and stuff!!! Nonsense!!
Will have to face facts that it prob will never go back to a free community service so I think I will be spending a good bit less time on here
They can go on about it being the busiest motoring BB in the world if they like but the fact is they are turning the majority of their following away all IMO of course.
03 February 2004, 10:44 PM
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As has been stated elsewhere, in order to advertise things on SN, you do not have to be a Plus member and indeed it does not cost £25 to "post" in For Sale.
Indeed, to create new thread(s) in For Sale will cost £5 per month or £15 per year. SN is, by no means, not the only car orientated BBS to have implemented this policy.
Indeed, to create new thread(s) in For Sale will cost £5 per month or £15 per year. SN is, by no means, not the only car orientated BBS to have implemented this policy.
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04 February 2004, 09:36 AM
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Aye, but it does cost where as it didnt before. Thats what I am getting at!
There may well be other BBS' that do this however they do not have the popularity of this one.........what does that tell you ?
It is a business right enough but gone a step too far if you ask me
There may well be other BBS' that do this however they do not have the popularity of this one.........what does that tell you ?
It is a business right enough but gone a step too far if you ask me
04 February 2004, 11:29 AM
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The problem with the old BBS was it was heavily modded by Simon/Suan from the standard bbs code. This made things very unrelaible and it appeared to be crippling the system.
The new BBS uses the vBulletin software and being very popular means it will look just like some other boards using the software. The question is whether the software can be easily (and reliably) modified to give SN a unique look 'n feel.
Personally, I think it looks good and just took a little bit of getting used too. Going back to SN2 would be a poor backwards step IMHO.
I don't like the fact that a reply automatically generates a quote, but I'm sure Simon/Suan can change that.
As for paying to sell, well I'm personally not going to spend £25 for the Plus Membership simply because I don't think it gives me anymore benefits than the free service. The discounts in the Shop are good, but I can find goods cheaper elsewhere by simply going straight to the supplier and haggling a deal of my own. There's also Group Buy's to help with bringing costs down.
Simon has already stated the costs to run this BBS and those have to be met somehow. Either the mods pay for it all themselves or they sell advertising/sponsorship to pay for it or they charge the users a small amount for using it.
People were calling for seperate For-Sale forums and one dedicated for cars. Autotrader charges a small fee, so I don't have an issure with being charged a small amount to advertise a car on here. Question as a seller is what does SN offer that Autotrader (or any other competitor) does not and especially how prominent the ad would be to other users.
I don't think SN could survive very long if the advertising or memberships were completely removed. At the end of the day, it costs a lot of money to keep running. It may have thousands of users, but they don't contribute to any of the running costs. If I were Simon, I'd either have to consider shutting it down completely or find ways to make it pay for itself.
It's not like you can simple stick an old PC on your home DSL connection and run SN from there; not with thousands of users and the huge amount of traffic.
I guess if people want to go back 5 years to the days of SN1, then they can always head over to the 22B bbs and chat with a few well-known characters
Just my 2p's worth,
Stefan
The new BBS uses the vBulletin software and being very popular means it will look just like some other boards using the software. The question is whether the software can be easily (and reliably) modified to give SN a unique look 'n feel.
Personally, I think it looks good and just took a little bit of getting used too. Going back to SN2 would be a poor backwards step IMHO.
I don't like the fact that a reply automatically generates a quote, but I'm sure Simon/Suan can change that.
As for paying to sell, well I'm personally not going to spend £25 for the Plus Membership simply because I don't think it gives me anymore benefits than the free service. The discounts in the Shop are good, but I can find goods cheaper elsewhere by simply going straight to the supplier and haggling a deal of my own. There's also Group Buy's to help with bringing costs down.
Simon has already stated the costs to run this BBS and those have to be met somehow. Either the mods pay for it all themselves or they sell advertising/sponsorship to pay for it or they charge the users a small amount for using it.
People were calling for seperate For-Sale forums and one dedicated for cars. Autotrader charges a small fee, so I don't have an issure with being charged a small amount to advertise a car on here. Question as a seller is what does SN offer that Autotrader (or any other competitor) does not and especially how prominent the ad would be to other users.
I don't think SN could survive very long if the advertising or memberships were completely removed. At the end of the day, it costs a lot of money to keep running. It may have thousands of users, but they don't contribute to any of the running costs. If I were Simon, I'd either have to consider shutting it down completely or find ways to make it pay for itself.
It's not like you can simple stick an old PC on your home DSL connection and run SN from there; not with thousands of users and the huge amount of traffic.
I guess if people want to go back 5 years to the days of SN1, then they can always head over to the 22B bbs and chat with a few well-known characters
Just my 2p's worth,
Stefan
04 February 2004, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzy
The problem with the old BBS was it was heavily modded by Simon/Suan from the standard bbs code. This made things very unrelaible and it appeared to be crippling the system.
The new BBS uses the vBulletin software and being very popular means it will look just like some other boards using the software. The question is whether the software can be easily (and reliably) modified to give SN a unique look 'n feel.
Personally, I think it looks good and just took a little bit of getting used too. Going back to SN2 would be a poor backwards step IMHO.
I don't like the fact that a reply automatically generates a quote, but I'm sure Simon/Suan can change that.
As for paying to sell, well I'm personally not going to spend £25 for the Plus Membership simply because I don't think it gives me anymore benefits than the free service. The discounts in the Shop are good, but I can find goods cheaper elsewhere by simply going straight to the supplier and haggling a deal of my own. There's also Group Buy's to help with bringing costs down.
Simon has already stated the costs to run this BBS and those have to be met somehow. Either the mods pay for it all themselves or they sell advertising/sponsorship to pay for it or they charge the users a small amount for using it.
People were calling for seperate For-Sale forums and one dedicated for cars. Autotrader charges a small fee, so I don't have an issure with being charged a small amount to advertise a car on here. Question as a seller is what does SN offer that Autotrader (or any other competitor) does not and especially how prominent the ad would be to other users.
I don't think SN could survive very long if the advertising or memberships were completely removed. At the end of the day, it costs a lot of money to keep running. It may have thousands of users, but they don't contribute to any of the running costs. If I were Simon, I'd either have to consider shutting it down completely or find ways to make it pay for itself.
It's not like you can simple stick an old PC on your home DSL connection and run SN from there; not with thousands of users and the huge amount of traffic.
I guess if people want to go back 5 years to the days of SN1, then they can always head over to the 22B bbs and chat with a few well-known characters
Just my 2p's worth,
Stefan
The new BBS uses the vBulletin software and being very popular means it will look just like some other boards using the software. The question is whether the software can be easily (and reliably) modified to give SN a unique look 'n feel.
Personally, I think it looks good and just took a little bit of getting used too. Going back to SN2 would be a poor backwards step IMHO.
I don't like the fact that a reply automatically generates a quote, but I'm sure Simon/Suan can change that.
As for paying to sell, well I'm personally not going to spend £25 for the Plus Membership simply because I don't think it gives me anymore benefits than the free service. The discounts in the Shop are good, but I can find goods cheaper elsewhere by simply going straight to the supplier and haggling a deal of my own. There's also Group Buy's to help with bringing costs down.
Simon has already stated the costs to run this BBS and those have to be met somehow. Either the mods pay for it all themselves or they sell advertising/sponsorship to pay for it or they charge the users a small amount for using it.
People were calling for seperate For-Sale forums and one dedicated for cars. Autotrader charges a small fee, so I don't have an issure with being charged a small amount to advertise a car on here. Question as a seller is what does SN offer that Autotrader (or any other competitor) does not and especially how prominent the ad would be to other users.
I don't think SN could survive very long if the advertising or memberships were completely removed. At the end of the day, it costs a lot of money to keep running. It may have thousands of users, but they don't contribute to any of the running costs. If I were Simon, I'd either have to consider shutting it down completely or find ways to make it pay for itself.
It's not like you can simple stick an old PC on your home DSL connection and run SN from there; not with thousands of users and the huge amount of traffic.
I guess if people want to go back 5 years to the days of SN1, then they can always head over to the 22B bbs and chat with a few well-known characters
Just my 2p's worth,
Stefan
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04 February 2004, 05:47 PM
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It's free to advertise on PistonHeads and you can upload the photos directly (i.e. no uploading at a third party site and hot-linking).
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It's free to advertise on PistonHeads and you can upload the photos directly (i.e. no uploading at a third party site and hot-linking).
Cheers,
N
04 February 2004, 07:07 PM
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Thanks Numptie.
TBH it was more the non motoring related things I found more interesting. I had bought and sold a lot of items via the for sale forum and liked dealing with the community, know the names and as a rule could trust most of the people that posted.
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TBH it was more the non motoring related things I found more interesting. I had bought and sold a lot of items via the for sale forum and liked dealing with the community, know the names and as a rule could trust most of the people that posted.
PG
04 February 2004, 07:36 PM
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There are a few sections in the classifieds for non motoring stuff and the peeps are generally as trustworthy.
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Cheers,
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04 February 2004, 07:47 PM
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Disagree overall, think the new SN will be easier and better in the long run with its new look etc. Yes I disagree with some things but I cant fault the reasons and implementation of SN3.
I dont know a whole lot about programming and databases, but vBulletin will prove itself a lot better the SN2 ever did, OK it looks a bit bland and the same as everyone else but its the content that brought people to Scoobynet.
Spooks
I dont know a whole lot about programming and databases, but vBulletin will prove itself a lot better the SN2 ever did, OK it looks a bit bland and the same as everyone else but its the content that brought people to Scoobynet.
Spooks
04 February 2004, 08:30 PM
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I must admit I do like the feature of the new SN 3 system etc I just object to the nursery school colours. Much nicer and classier colours were to be had before - the carbon effect is nice though not with the orange.
Anyone else, like me, think it will be good but is just to tacky in a way (sorry mods - we appreciate your efforts).
Anyone else, like me, think it will be good but is just to tacky in a way (sorry mods - we appreciate your efforts).
04 February 2004, 09:37 PM
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So what was so great about the old version? It was slower than a slow thing at a national sloth convention FFS and it was a nightmare making any changes to it.
I'm sure once Simon/Shaun have finished with the important stuff like getting a decent search facility online they'll concentrate on making it look a little more subdued.
Stefan
So what was so great about the old version? It was slower than a slow thing at a national sloth convention FFS and it was a nightmare making any changes to it.
I'm sure once Simon/Shaun have finished with the important stuff like getting a decent search facility online they'll concentrate on making it look a little more subdued.
Stefan
04 February 2004, 10:17 PM
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SN3 will get better and the old one won't be back!!
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Originally posted yesterday by Simon.
SN3 will get better and the old one won't be back!!
04 February 2004, 10:46 PM
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A bit like saying what was wrong with the classic scoob! loads of people still say it's the best scoob, some don’t agree.
Can’t see me changing my mind just because you disagree with what I think of SN3, and I’m certainly not going to explain why I don’t like it.
It’s also pretty obvious that there's no way there going to change it back to the old one, but that’s not going to change my opinion of the new one.
Perhaps SN3 should have been finished and tested first.
Chris
Can’t see me changing my mind just because you disagree with what I think of SN3, and I’m certainly not going to explain why I don’t like it.
It’s also pretty obvious that there's no way there going to change it back to the old one, but that’s not going to change my opinion of the new one.
Perhaps SN3 should have been finished and tested first.
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06 February 2004, 10:48 AM
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yes it looks so bad and is realy awkward to see where everything is.
it was clear and precise b4 and didn't look cheaply done!
very dissapointed ciaran : (
it was clear and precise b4 and didn't look cheaply done!
very dissapointed ciaran : (
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