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Old 22 April 2003, 06:56 PM
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Hey there.
Im new to this forum as i have just purchased a 96 silver wrx sti V2. Not been got it yet. Its still in Japan! Will get my hands on it in mid May!!
Was just wondering how many of you are in edinburgh?
Also, could sum 1 tell me if the RED ROP engines are more powerfull than the normal engines?
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Old 22 April 2003, 06:57 PM
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I meant RED TOP engine!!!!
Old 22 April 2003, 07:11 PM
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I'm in Edinburgh. In May, you'l hear me in a silver 93 wrx.

Not too sure about the red top engines. You'l soon find out that its not the colour of engine youve got but what youve done to it!!

Enjoy!!

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Old 22 April 2003, 07:13 PM
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Ive been told that the RED TOPS are more duerable and a bit stronger.
Old 22 April 2003, 07:21 PM
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Welcome,
I'm new to the Scooby Scene too, not got mine yet either, Pick her up in 8 Days (not like I'm counting)

As for engines, I'm lead to believe that the jap engines are stronger, more durable and accept being tuned alot more than a UK car.

Muiry
Old 22 April 2003, 07:22 PM
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You might be right actually. I think ive heard something about the pistons being better quality.

If i'm right, the compression ratio will be another difference.

Just a word of warning. Make sure you use optimax and if you can afford it, Octane Booster. I blew my Jap import up because i just used Optimax.

With another engine in now, i only use Optimax + Octane Booster. Another good first buy would be a Knock link so that you can monitor pre-egnition.

Dont worry, these Jap cars are great but because their ECU's are set up for running on 100ron fuel, they dont take too kindly to other types.

I was ill advised and i just want to make sure any other buyers arent.

Old 22 April 2003, 07:23 PM
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Aparently mines is alomst 280bhp. Duno if there any truth behind that or not.
I cant count my days as i dont have a dockind day yet!!!
Old 22 April 2003, 07:25 PM
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Ive been told to use optimax 2. Not been told about this Octane stuff tho!! What is this all about?
You must excuse me. This all new to me!! Its a bit of a learning curve for!!
Im used to driving a rover coupe for the last 16 months!!!!
Old 22 April 2003, 07:26 PM
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Yep 280bhp sounds about standard for a Jap spec import, I'll post a link to a couple of web pages that should give you some info on your new motor.
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Found it, thanks to SIDC

http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#1.4

section 2.1.1

[Edited by Pyrocam999 - 4/22/2003 7:29:44 PM]
Old 22 April 2003, 07:30 PM
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Thats great. Cheers.
Would still like to know about this octane booster and this Knock Link? What does this do?
Old 22 April 2003, 07:33 PM
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oops


[Edited by Spooks - 4/22/2003 7:34:25 PM]
Old 22 April 2003, 07:35 PM
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Let me grab some food and i'll get back to you on the OB and Knock link. I'm sure somebody will beat me to it in the next half hour!
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Use the search option at the top of the page tho seek out info on both Knock Links and Octane Booster, far to many links to post

Jap cars in Japan run on 100 RON fuel, for them to run to their maximum efficiency in the UK you require a fuel addative to be mixed with the fuel in the tank as UK spec fuel is (correct me if i'm wrong) 95 and 97 RON
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Ahh. I see.
So even shel optimax isnt enuff on its own?
Old 22 April 2003, 07:40 PM
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If you want the best out of your car then OB is the way to go. Loads of threads all over the place to answer all your questions.

link-electro.co.nz/knocklink.html

[Edited by Pyrocam999 - 4/22/2003 7:42:14 PM]

[Edited by Pyrocam999 - 4/22/2003 7:43:39 PM]
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Where can i get OB from? How much does it cost?
Old 22 April 2003, 07:54 PM
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Don't know anywhere locally, but that's coz I've not been looking. Try the scoobynet shop, I'm sure they sell in bulk (10 or 12)
Old 22 April 2003, 08:07 PM
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One reason to use OB is to get the car to run at optimum levels but there is another more important and that is to reduce the likelihood of detonation or pinking or knocking or pre-egnition (whatever you want to call it)

Detonation can be very harmful to your engine. I'll not go into it in detail. Basically, the fuel coming into a cylinder explodes before it should. At this point, the piston is still on its way up. The top of the piston slams into this detonation. What should happen is the fuel should combust from the provided spark as and when the piston has got to the top of the stroke thus forcing it back down again.

To cut a long story short, Octance booster will help delay this detonation. There are many other methods like reducing cyclinder temps by getting a larger intercooler or retarding the timing or lowering the level of boost etc etc.

What a knocklink does is tell you when this detting is happening. It may not be audible over the engine noise which is why this simple guage is very useful.

If you know its happening, you can do something about it. If you dont know its happening and do what i did and continued using a lead foot, you are very likely to loose your engine.

My opinion is for a Jap car, a knocklink is important especially if the ECU has not been changed from the Jap specs. UK car not so important unless you start to modify, like fiddle with boost levels etc
Old 22 April 2003, 08:08 PM
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p.s. - i'm no expert. Get other opinions also but most of all enjoy your car!!
Old 22 April 2003, 09:49 PM
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I,m actually from East Linton.But I often go into the TOON .you may see me around (STI V Type R V-ltd some stickers and yellow flaps.) Seeyas around!
Old 22 April 2003, 10:37 PM
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I'm also new the scooby experience.

Keep an eye out for blue/gold alloys uk MY99.

We should get an Edinburgh meet going.

Cheers, Kenny
Old 22 April 2003, 11:15 PM
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There seem to be a lot of new scoobies in the edinburgh and east lothian area. I'm in the centre of toon but am down the east coast most weekends for a wee run. Coast road between Longniddry and North Berwick with a few twisties in at whitekirk. then over the back roads to whitinghame/gifford area.
Old 22 April 2003, 11:26 PM
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Thats where I am. Had ME CAR for over a year (18000 miles) and still learning.
Old 22 April 2003, 11:32 PM
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sg72, East Linton ? take it you'll know Chris Alan then ?
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Another edinburgh lad here DBM 4-door UK T***EUB

All imports should be run with Optimax/SUL with booster or your love for them will be short lived
Old 23 April 2003, 09:39 AM
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All imports should be run with Optimax/SUL with booster or your love for them will be short lived
and make you sure you have a huge VISA limit available...... bet you'll need it
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Yep, you'll need a big overdraft ! My Cossie ran on Optimax and Octane Booster. About £50 to fill it up..200 miles later..empty.

I'm one of the very few who's bought a Scooby cos it's more econimical !!!

Oh...i get it tomorrow now...not Saturday...yipee !
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Welcome on board Scotishscooby !!

The red top engine refers to the colour of the inlet manifolds. Usually it means that there's an STi engine in the car, which has had extra work done by Subaru Technic International. Not sure of the exact details for the V2, but on the later models there were stronger pistons, lighter valves and I'm sure some other 'tweaks' ! It's the one to have for further tuning too. On the later models the Jap WRX had 260 bhp, and the Jap WRX STi had 280.
Standard UK spec cars (classic shape) have around 215bhp, and are generally lower spec than the Jap ones, so you chose well. Just be careful with your fuel, and as someone else advised, get a knocklink just in case.

For your info you can get octane booster from Pentland Components in Edinburgh (Leith, Sighthill and Brunsfield). There are a couple of subaru fans working there too, so you might get some chat while there

Also you can get knocklinks from J W racing (www.j-w-racing.com I think).

Have fun with the new car, and look out for a Y Reg P1 on your travels (2 door impreza in light metalic blue).

Cheers

Dave
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hi m8,

ALWAYS USE optimax and booster, if you are stuck of optimax, ie up north use super u/l and two bottles of booster, even then dont go totaly mental, and if you can turn your boost down a wee bit, i run .6 of a bar and 0.1 of a bar and h20s happy at that, a 95 wrx with a SCOOBYSPORT mota, and it will do a happy 150mph on the gps all day, though i dont know the bhp yet as its still to go to star for the rollers!
its also worth while getting the geometreys done as the nips do some strange stuff to there settings!
oh, and get good oil, and a new cam belt, spark plugs and be carefull where you take it to get the work done.................
as i have found out to my cost i would not go north of edinburgh, put it that way, east,west or south!

if u need any info, shout!!!!!!

cheers robinh20


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