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Old 07 October 2013, 07:32 PM
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Default Front subframe :(

Ok so not had the car long at all, just taken it to get new tyre on front drivers side and noticed the u shape subframe is completely rotten, I mean se through rotten, been advised not to drive the car (for obvious reasons) does anyone know the part number for the front subframe so I can try and find a used one as I spent most of my hard earned cash buying the car I've looked on ebay and can't seem to find one for my 2001 bugeye wrx. Thanks in advance for any help
Old 07 October 2013, 07:41 PM
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I got a spare one from a 1999 UK 2000 facelift, you'll have to check if fits?
Old 07 October 2013, 07:44 PM
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Thank you Matthew but I'm 99% sure it is a different part! I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you so much though and if it fits if will pm u.thanks again
Old 07 October 2013, 07:47 PM
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No probs mate
Old 07 October 2013, 07:56 PM
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If its the u frame from one side,around behind the front bumper and to the oppisite side? Then theres not a problem with using the car. Many including myself have removed this frame. the cars not going to fall to bits. The frame is there for eu crash ratings many of the jap spec cars dont have it from factory. Ive been running without mine for at least two years.
Old 07 October 2013, 08:02 PM
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Bloody hell, I never knew that, thanks turbotits ill double check it's the right frame tomorrow, the bloke at the garage told me it's a mot failure and not to drive it. Thanks again
Old 07 October 2013, 08:11 PM
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It's this one

Sure that's the one turbotits is on about
Old 07 October 2013, 08:20 PM
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Yep thats the one. The guy at the garage is correct in that it would fail an mot. It would fail for excess corrosion within a persribed area. If its not there then it doesnt matter at all. If you do remove it then the plastic undertray goes too

A persribed area being 30cm of an steering,suspension,structual part of the car. theres loads more persribed areas. But you get the idea

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Old 07 October 2013, 08:25 PM
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As turbo says, it's fine to run without as I have been for about 4-years. The other use it has is to mount the engine undertray. If it's corroded it will fail, if it's not fitted it can't be corroded
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Ok thank you vey much again, really appriciate it, that's going to save me a bit of cash,
Old 07 October 2013, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan wrx
Ok thank you vey much again, really appriciate it, that's going to save me a bit of cash,
And some weight.
Old 07 October 2013, 09:09 PM
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And some crash strength lol



** the above statement may not be technically correct, but it sounded funny at the time!**
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Lol yeah I've read up about it it saves about 14kgs on weight, supposed to improve handling and have read a few articles about the safety issue, apparently it doesn't make much difference at all but don't hold me to it, that's just what I've read,
Old 07 October 2013, 09:27 PM
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Just to warn you, don't forget to check first with your insurance that removing it (a safety feature) won't invalidate your policy.

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Old 07 October 2013, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
Just to warn you, don't forget to check first with your insurance that removing it (a safety feature) won't invalidate your policy.

Oh, and welcome to my world:

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...ame-query.html
It wasn't on it when I bought it. Simples. You do worry osimabu

On another note your pro dynax and anti waxoyl rants have made me see the light.I now use dynax instead, and agree that waxoyl aint the best( especially black)
Old 07 October 2013, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
And some crash strength lol



** the above statement may not be technically correct, but it sounded funny at the time!**
As long as it tickled you mate

I tickle meself all the time
Old 07 October 2013, 11:02 PM
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does this subframe act as a mount for the rads?
Old 07 October 2013, 11:04 PM
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Nope
Old 08 October 2013, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by poolio74
It wasn't on it when I bought it. Simples. You do worry osimabu

On another note your pro dynax and anti waxoyl rants have made me see the light.I now use dynax instead, and agree that waxoyl aint the best( especially black)
Sorry, yes, I do bother about anything insurance related as my family are currently having first hand experience of just how hard they'll try to get out of paying if you don't stick exactly to their rules.

I'm glad you like the Dynax. Only those who've not yet tried it will attempt to say that Waxoyl is a worthwhile alternative. I've yet to find anything made by Bilt Hamber that is not better than any competitor's product.
Old 08 October 2013, 08:49 AM
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Took mine off about four years ago. Well worth taking it off anyway IMHO
Old 08 October 2013, 10:29 AM
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Is it grief to take off, are the things bolted to it ie engine subframe?or is it just take off the undertray and unborn the u frame job done?
Old 08 October 2013, 10:42 AM
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Undertray off and just unbolt it - if you have some ramps you don't even need to take the wheels off
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Yep I got some of those , cheers guys
Old 08 October 2013, 11:07 AM
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I'm tempted to do this "mod" appart rom the weight saving does it affect the handling and if so how?
Old 08 October 2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I'm tempted to do this "mod" appart rom the weight saving does it affect the handling and if so how?
Both front wheels feel like they are a Giraffe on ice, independent to the whole car . . .

On a serious note, No change at all
Old 08 October 2013, 01:14 PM
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So you just lose some unsprung weight?

I seem to remember a thread where it was discussed at length but not sure what the outcome was, i'm also sure that there was some talk of it improving handling.

I'll see if I can find it.
Old 08 October 2013, 01:20 PM
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Ummm sounds interesting , thinking ...........
Old 08 October 2013, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan wrx
Lol yeah I've read up about it it saves about 14kgs on weight, supposed to improve handling and have read a few articles about the safety issue, apparently it doesn't make much difference at all but don't hold me to it, that's just what I've read,
Hi you got any links to the info you've been reading?
Old 08 October 2013, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
So you just lose some unsprung weight?
Its not unsprung weight tho is it.

its bolted to the underside of the front the car.

unsprung weight is things that are not suspended by the suspension, like the suspension, hubs, brakes, wheels and tyres etc.

everything else that is attached to the body of the car is sprung weight
Old 08 October 2013, 02:00 PM
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Unless you have a blunt head on

? Would like 2 see side by side testing

Risk vs reward baby


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