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Old 11 September 2013, 08:50 PM
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Default Anyone running LPG on their Scoob wrx?

Just wondered how feasible this would be? Might wife has been whinging that she just put 67£ worth of fuel to go 250 miles.
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mine, over 3years now, few trips abroad no problems at all yet
Old 11 September 2013, 09:28 PM
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Interesting,

Would your share some more info re: additional service cost, installation costs, any other advice? Does the performance mirror petrol?

Thanks
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additional service 35quid every 10k -15kmiles, installation cost -i paid 700 but now seems to be 900, cheaper tax about 15-20 quid
my advice (depends from power on petrol) stick with best lpg injectors and vaporiser and You should not notice any difference
did mine at lpg wales

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Old 11 September 2013, 10:55 PM
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£900 damm there charging over £1800 near me
Old 11 September 2013, 10:58 PM
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Thanks for the info. Can I ask what kit you have?
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not got my scooby on LPG yet but the astra is on it
its great.

for a scooby your looking at about 1300-1900 for a good install (dont pay less than 1300 as you will pay more long run)

MPG is a little less. a couple less mabey.
you will get a little less performance but you can up the boost since its 108 octane.

make sure you get a autolube or similar kit on it

providing you do your homework befor you pick an installer (there are alot off cowboys out there) then go for it! you wont regret it
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
£900 damm there charging over £1800 near me
maybe they put prins for that price, ive got brc-stag (if i remember)
but next year i will change injectors and vaporiser(i think additional 200 for best parts used)
no matter about lpg ecu ,all do a job- take good injectors and vaporizer- they can set up lpg map above petrol map
the same like petrol -more power=better injectors
astra 4 cylinder-scoob 4 cylinder= price difference only in injectors and vaporiser like wrote before
of course you can go for prins etc. but scoob is simply to convert , no issues at all
bmw m3 is pain ,especially automatic

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Originally Posted by fawor
maybe they put prins for that price, ive got brc-stag (if i remember)
but next year i will change injectors and vaporiser(i think additional 200 for best parts used)
900 is fecking cheep!
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
900 is fecking cheep!
i paid 700 i have not autolube, thats a myth
its no worth fit lpg kit when you do 4,6 miles to work and back
car need some time/temp to switch from petrol to lpg
on colder days ,before it will switch on lpg you could do 2miles on petrol
on hot days 50 yards,now 14 degrees half mile,winter 1-2 miles etc.

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ive had several cars on lpg now, my bug not on it but id recommend it i had an audi 80 &on a run i would get around 50mpg & you couldnt tell the difference if on petrol or lpg i ended up getting rjd of audi when it had done nearly 300.000miles with no probs & i was third owner.i'd like another lpg as saved me a fortune on petrol.
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I got it on my twin turbo Legacy.

I even installed it on my MX5.

LPG still has too many doubters. They are all muppets though.
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Originally Posted by fawor
i paid 700 i have not autolube, thats a myth
its no worth when you do 4,6 miles to work and back
car need some time/temp to switch from petrol to lpg
on colder days ,before it will switch on lpg you could do 2miles on petrol
on hot days 50 yards,now 14 degrees half mile,winter 1-2 miles etc.

What?? What do you mean its not worth it? It saves your engine?! Why do you have LPG anyway if you only do a few miles to work?

Valve seat regression is NOT a myth!
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Originally Posted by joshnosh

Valve seat regression is NOT a myth!
Exactly, If it wasnt an issue why have I got a forester in the workshop with the cams out to re shim the valves due to no clearances and running like a bag of **** if it was a myth I wouldnt need to be doing this & at £35.35 per shim needing 16 of them plus timing belt and seals your fast clocking up £800 in parts alone.

I hate the stuff personally
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I work for chrysler jeep and people seem to fit the gas conversions to the hemi engines obviously due to the fuel costs and the only problems we have had engine wise are the gas converted ones.
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
What?? What do you mean its not worth it? It saves your engine?! Why do you have LPG anyway if you only do a few miles to work?

Valve seat regression is NOT a myth!
where i signed i do few miles to work i mean its no worth fit lpg if you do few miles to work daily (edited above for idiots like You)
its myth, read more , learn
i would not explain You ho lube works and how many valves seats will be lubricate by it
i dont care , i know i dont need it
you could have valve seat regression even on petrol

Originally Posted by rob84
Exactly, If it wasnt an issue why have I got a forester in the workshop with the cams out to re shim the valves due to no clearances and running like a bag of **** if it was a myth I wouldnt need to be doing this & at £35.35 per shim needing 16 of them plus timing belt and seals your fast clocking up £800 in parts alone.

I hate the stuff personally
impreza turbo wrx or sti has stronger/harder valve seats
which engine in forester -2.0l with turbo?
why -simply answer ,**** lpg fitter

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Old 12 September 2013, 10:13 PM
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Hmm a few widely varied opinions here. Anyone have experiance of Medway dual fuel in Kent? So to summarise, make sure I get autolube and decent injectors? And hopefully a decent fitter ?
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Originally Posted by fawor

impreza turbo wrx or sti has stronger/harder valve seats
which engine in forester -2.0l with turbo?
why -simply answer ,**** lpg fitter
if I recall its only the exhaust valves which are sodium filled on the sti engine.
There were modified heads approved for use on gas that wernt fitted as standard.

This is a 2.0 xt its a turbo motor fitted with flash lube, I know exactly what valves & valve seats are fitted to these cars I work with them day in day out lol

This isn't the only one we have issues with a couple of wrx engines too, valves are to be adjusted every 60,000 miles if they make it that far according to the supplement handbook supplied.
Strangely enough the tribeca H6 motor on lpg isnt effected suppose with VVL it perhaps saves them.

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Originally Posted by fawor
where i signed i do few miles to work i mean its no worth fit lpg if you do few miles to work daily (edited above for idiots like You)
its myth, read more , learn
i would not explain You ho lube works and how many valves seats will be lubricate by it
i dont care , i know i dont need it
you could have valve seat regression even on petrol
i think you will find im a fair bit better read than you are on the subject
i installed the gas system on my astra myself and tuned it as well as knowing quite a few installers. its not a myth. its a proven fact
you seem oblivious to this though so im not going to argue with you about it.

autolube / valve saver isnt a lubricant its a coolant. it cools the valves and valve seats.

petrol evaporates when its injected and cools things down as it enters the cylinder. gas is already evaporated in the evaporator thats plumbed into the coolant system, thus its got almost no cooling property's.

i dont understand why anyone wouldn't want a valve saver. on a 1k yeah why bother. but on a relatively high tuned turbo car like a scooby your mad
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
i think you will find im a fair bit better read than you are on the subject
i installed the gas system on my astra myself and tuned it as well as knowing quite a few installers. its not a myth. its a proven fact
you seem oblivious to this though so im not going to argue with you about it.

autolube / valve saver isnt a lubricant its a coolant. it cools the valves and valve seats.

petrol evaporates when its injected and cools things down as it enters the cylinder. gas is already evaporated in the evaporator thats plumbed into the coolant system, thus its got almost no cooling property's.

i dont understand why anyone wouldn't want a valve saver. on a 1k yeah why bother. but on a relatively high tuned turbo car like a scooby your mad
Josh ignore his anfractuous ramblings. You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Josh ignore his anfractuous ramblings. You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
i do indeed, hence why that was my last post
Old 13 September 2013, 03:15 PM
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So the updated advice is as long as its got auto lube it's ok?
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Originally Posted by rob84
if I recall its only the exhaust valves which are sodium filled on the sti engine.

There were modified heads approved for use on gas that wernt fitted as standard.



This is a 2.0 xt its a turbo motor fitted with flash lube, I know exactly what valves & valve seats are fitted to these cars I work with them day in day out lol



This isn't the only one we have issues with a couple of wrx engines too, valves are to be adjusted every 60,000 miles if they make it that far according to the supplement handbook supplied.

Strangely enough the tribeca H6 motor on lpg isnt effected suppose with VVL it perhaps saves them.
im sure you work as who, cleaner
sorry you have no idea , you never been in factory seen how they made it.
if valves are to be adjusted in wrx that will happen in sti to than
as far as i know from bigger lpg market then UK main problems are with forester engine ,and subaru justy .


Originally Posted by joshnosh
i think you will find im a fair bit better read than you are on the subject
i installed the gas system on my astra myself and tuned it as well as knowing quite a few installers. its not a myth. its a proven fact
you seem oblivious to this though so im not going to argue with you about it.

autolube / valve saver isnt a lubricant its a coolant. it cools the valves and valve seats.

petrol evaporates when its injected and cools things down as it enters the cylinder. gas is already evaporated in the evaporator thats plumbed into the coolant system, thus its got almost no cooling property's.

i dont understand why anyone wouldn't want a valve saver. on a 1k yeah why bother. but on a relatively high tuned turbo car like a scooby your mad
its coolant, its working good on one cylinder only,its no worth to fit.
wake up -90% owners havent aoutolube


Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Josh ignore his anfractuous ramblings. You know what they say about arguing with idiots.

i heard You are dead
dont follow my and others posts with idiotic comments
i know you know better how to deal with lpg wrx engine
but who owes it

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Big fella, you should either read what you've written before you press post, or learn the English language
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Originally Posted by urban
Big fella, you should either read what you've written before you press post, or learn the English language
i dont need it , thats my 3rd language it must not be perfect
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Fair enough, I speak English, some Spanish, and bad language.
That's three for me too
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Originally Posted by fawor
i dont need it , thats my 3rd language it must not be perfect
There's a huge chasm between perfection and the incomprehensible twaddle you post.
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